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Sherri



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PostPosted: Tue May 11, 2004 2:31 am    Post subject: Don't overstay your visa! Reply with quote

An article in the San Francisco Chronicle today:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2004/05/10/MNGT16IQK81.DTL

Japan gets tough on visa violators
1-day overstay can bring time in cell, 5-year banishment

Catherine Makino, Chronicle Foreign Service Monday, May 10, 2004


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Tokyo -- When Bay Area students Angela Luna and Richard Nishizawa tried to board a plane bound for San Francisco in March, airport authorities threw them in a small holding cell and held them incommunicado for several days before banishing them from Japan for five years.

Luna and Nishizawa, who had studied Japanese for a year at Reitaku University about 20 miles northeast of Tokyo, were not arrested for committing a serious crime. They had merely stayed in the country two weeks longer than their visas permitted.

"We had valid 5-year visas, so we didn't bother to look at our immigration stamps," Luna, 27, said by telephone from her home in Lafayette. "The guards made me change my clothes because they had drawstrings. They thought I might use it has a weapon, or strangle someone. We were treated like criminals."

Nishizawa, 31, who lives in Martinez, says he was handcuffed, strip- searched, placed in a 20-by-20-foot cell with four other foreigners and given a mat to sleep on.

Christopher Mockford, a student from Ellensburg, Wash., was handcuffed and detained for three days after finishing a yearlong scholarship program at Shimane University in western Japan. He, too, was banished from Japan for five years, for staying one day longer than his visa allowed.

"My major is Japanese, and now I will have to probably change it," Mockford said.

Luna, Nishizawa and Mockford were victims of an intense crackdown in the past year that punishes foreigners who stay in Japan longer than they are legally allowed. The campaign has been harshly criticized by human rights groups, who say politicians and the government are cynically blaming foreigners for Japan's depressed economy and rising crime rate -- even if innocent tourists and students get caught up in the dragnet.

"There is racial profiling going on, and no one is questioning it," said Makoto Teranaka, secretary general of Amnesty International in Japan. "The police are using foreigners as scapegoats for an increase in crime."

Known locally as "overstayers," foreigners are subject to being jailed for three to four days, fined up to $3,000 and banned from Japan for five years for staying a single day longer than their visa permits. Some are even charged $600 for each day in detention and denied the right to call their family or embassy unless they appeal their cases, a three- to five-week process that few overstayers opt for.

The Justice Ministry argues that the crackdown is warranted because some 220,000 foreigners violated their visas last year -- mostly Koreans, Filipinos and Chinese who want to hang on to jobs that pay higher wages than jobs in their own countries. An additional 30,000 foreigners were smuggled illegally into Japan, mainly from China.

Tatsuro Kitazono, an immigration officer in Tokyo, says the crackdown is linked to a 17 percent jump in crime by foreigners in the past year. In 2003, police say foreigners committed 40,615 criminal acts -- mostly theft, fraud and forgery, but also the high-profile murders of a family of four in Fukuoka by three Chinese students.

Earl Kinmoth, a professor of sociology at Tokyo's Taisho University who has lived in Japan for some 30 years, also sees a historical tie to the campaign against overstayers.

"The crackdown is probably a combination of things: an increase in crime by Chinese, 9/11, unthinking officials and fear of foreigners," he said. "And certainly there is xenophobia here, based on history."

Japan was closed to the world for 250 years until U.S. Navy Commodore Matthew Perry forced the shogunate to open Japan's borders in 1854. The nation remains homogeneous, with only 0.2 percent of its population foreign-born. Sociologists say many Japanese remain deeply distrustful of gaijin, as foreigners are known -- a sentiment that has increased in recent years because of a decade-long economic recession and rising unemployment.

Tokyo Gov. Shintaro Ishihara, a nationalist who is one of Japan's most popular politicians, has promised additional manpower to help immigration agents root out visa violators in Tokyo and surrounding areas. In 2000, Ishihara told members of Japan's Self-Defense Forces that foreigners had committed "atrocious crimes" in the past and "could be expected to riot in the event of a disastrous earthquake."

The Immigration Bureau has also jumped on the nationalist bandwagon by creating a Web site (www.immi-moj.go.jp/zyouhou/index.html) in February that Amnesty International has described as "cyber xenophobia." The site asks Japanese to turn in suspicious foreigners who are "taking your jobs" and received more than 780 tips in the first month, according to bureau spokesman Mamoru Fukudaki.

Michael Boyle, a spokesman for the U.S. Embassy in Tokyo, says he does not know how many Americans have been detained in recent months because most detainees choose to leave Japan after paying fines and accepting the five-year banishment.

"The anecdotal evidence suggests that there has been an uptick in the number of Americans detained," Boyle said. "Our opinion is that when traveling abroad, Americans are subject to the laws of the country they are visiting."

An aging population and a low birth rate -- Japan's population is expected to drop from 125 million in 2004 to 100 million by 2056, in a projection by the National Institute of Population and Social Security -- have caused the government to grudgingly open its doors to foreign workers, who often take jobs shunned by most Japanese as falling within the "3Ds" -- dirty, dangerous and difficult. Such jobs, including work at construction sites and in restaurant kitchens, typically offer low wages and few or no benefits.

Tony Lazlo, director of Issho Kikaku ("Together Project"), a nonprofit organization formed by Tokyo-based foreigners to support multicultural issues, says foreigners previously avoided punishment for expired visas by writing a letter of apology. Kinmoth says immigration officials used to "bend over backward to handle it."

A special commission has been set up to review the nation's immigration laws.

Gregory Clark, a former Australian diplomat and the only foreigner on the panel, says his colleagues are "impervious to bad publicity" and are unlikely to ease up on overstayers. The Justice Ministry, which launched a special 200- member unit to find illegal residents last month, may increase the maximum fine from $3,000 to $30,000 and increase the banishment from five to 10 years.

In the Bay Area, Luna and Nishizawa say they plan on returning to Japan after their five-year banishment ends. But both are still fuming about being caught up in Japanese politics.

"I am upset about the way it was handled, especially since a lot of it is political and not a glitch in the bureaucratic system," said Luna. "The punishment certainly didn't fit the crime."
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shmooj



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PostPosted: Tue May 11, 2004 12:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

About time they got tough. It has been too easy for too long.

"We were treated as if we were criminals."

No kidding - they did break the law didn't they?
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Gordon



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PostPosted: Tue May 11, 2004 1:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hang em, right Shmooj? Wink

I just a read a good article in the Kansai Time Out (May 2004) where they interviewed people in immigration detention centers who overstayed their visas (by months or years). Some people can be held for years while they wait for sentencing and deportation.
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denise



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PostPosted: Tue May 11, 2004 1:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yikes!!!

I am getting mine renewed right now. I will make damn sure now that I have a brand new visa in my hot little hands before I even think about traveling anywhere this summer! (Of course, I would have done this anyway, but the article spooked me just a tad.)

Yeah, sure, they did break the law, but whatever happened to the punishment matching the crime?

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joncharles



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PostPosted: Tue May 11, 2004 3:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmmmm I had a three year visa and I always knew exactly when it expired. In fact, I had to pay the 4,000 yen for an extended stay tourist visa, because my original was about to expire and a visa from a new sponsor was not ready yet.

I see Japanese officials are still trying to blame foreigners for the crime increases... although, many crimes are committed by underpaid foreigners who have to scrape around to live, most are committed by uneducated Yakusa wannabe Japanese youths. (overgeneralizing a bit) Many are also committed by over 40 yr old former salarymen who lost their jobs when the bubble popped and now companies won't hire them because they are too old. Anyway.. I am off topic. This is for another column and another day.
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Tonester



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PostPosted: Tue May 11, 2004 11:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What can I say? I think that Mr Ishihara is a racist radical that should have never obtained power. He's only popular because he's saying things that the Japanese said years ago back before WWII. And the worst part is that there is no evidence to back his claims whatsoever and is playing on prejudice and xenophobia to keep his cushy job.

I know that it is not just him; it's other officials too but I wouldn't think he'd look too good in the international forum with his facist views.
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Iwantmyrightsnow



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PostPosted: Wed May 12, 2004 6:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

shmooj wrote:
About time they got tough. It has been too easy for too long.

"We were treated as if we were criminals."

No kidding - they did break the law didn't they?


Being a bit tough aren't you?What about the punishment fitting the crime. They were at the airport ready to leave. If it had been Beckham he would have been waved through. And didn't they have 5 year visas? The stamp in the passport was different. Seemed to be a bit of legitimate confusion.
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PostPosted: Wed May 12, 2004 11:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tonester wrote:
What can I say? I think that Mr Ishihara is a racist radical that should have never obtained power. He's only popular because he's saying things that the Japanese said years ago back before WWII.


Personally, I think that if you replace the Ishihara bit above with Bush, you end up with pretty much the same result except that you could call it the Greater Pan-Global US Prosperity Sphere Laughing

As for me being tough and punishment matching the crime... if they decide the punishment then good for them. It's not my country. When they grant me a visa, they do so in good faith and I am thereby granted guest status in their country. They set the rules and I should be aware of the punishment. Makes a balance when you consider how lax they are with traffic rules e.g. speeding. Swings and roundabouts.

If you are from the US or UK, think about your own country and all the lenient sentencing and the damage this is doing to our societies. It is a joke.

Do you seriously think these people were unaware of their visa status? Who travels that way and "accidentally" gets to the airport with an expired visa? Come on. They knew the story, and they just didn't bother. They just thought, "Hey, we're Westerners... we don't have to worry. We're not like all those smelly illegal Nigerians or Filipinos. We can cruise the world and invade other countries too even without a UN resolution... Sure we'll get through immigration because in this country, we have David Beckham status. What's a day or two here or there for such wonderful people as us?"

Well now they know how the other half live and will perhaps be a bit more sensitive to that and have a story to tell the grandchildren to boot. At least their Embassy will help them unlike Embassy staff of other nations I could mention who couldn't care less. If they had gone to an immigration office before this and sorted it out in advance they would have come to some agreement.

For people majoring in Japanese studies, they seemed pretty ignorant of Japan to me!
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guest of Japan



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PostPosted: Wed May 12, 2004 11:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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If you are from the US or UK, think about your own country and all the lenient sentencing and the damage this is doing to our societies. It is a joke.


Shmooj, I don't know about the UK, but the US has more people in prison than any other country. Over 2,000,000. I don't think they are being too lenient on the sentencing.

I'm surprised you can't be a little more sympathetic. It could easily have happened to you.
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PostPosted: Thu May 13, 2004 1:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

guest of Japan wrote:
Quote:
If you are from the US or UK, think about your own country and all the lenient sentencing and the damage this is doing to our societies. It is a joke.


Shmooj, I don't know about the UK, but the US has more people in prison than any other country. Over 2,000,000. I don't think they are being too lenient on the sentencing.


Here's something from the UK Home Office website
Quote:

● More than 8.75 million people are held in penal institutions throughout the world, mostly as
pre-trial detainees (remand prisoners) or having been convicted and sentenced. About half of
these are in the United States (1.96m), Russia (0.92m) or China (1.43m plus pre-trial
detainees and prisoners in �administrative detention�).
● The United States has the highest prison population rate in the world, some 686 per 100,000
of the national population, followed by the Cayman Islands (664), Russia (638), Belarus (554),
Kazakhstan (522), Turkmenistan (489), Belize (459), Bahamas (447), Suriname (437) and
Dominica (420).
● However, more than three-fifths of countries (62.5%) have rates below 150 per 100,000. (The
United Kingdom�s rate of 139 per 100,000 of the national population places it above the midpoint
in the World List; it is now the highest among countries of the European Union.)


So, I stand corrected here re the US. Re the UK you are always hearing daft and inexplicable sentencing on the news... might be a media skew though I guess.

But as for this...
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I'm surprised you can't be a little more sympathetic. It could easily have happened to you.

How on earth could it easily have happened to me? I don't get this.

Avoid dentention checklist for the challenged:
    Look in passport.
    Read date of expiry of visa (hint: the date after today)
    Call travel agent.
    Ask for flight before that date.
    Pack underpants.
    Leave country.
    Die happy.

Perhaps I'm simply a genius, but how is this hard?
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PAULH



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PostPosted: Thu May 13, 2004 2:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

denise wrote:

Yeah, sure, they did break the law, but whatever happened to the punishment matching the crime?

d



When I went back home a few years ago I met a woman who was stopped going through New York on her way to England without a transit visa. A bit fuzzy on the details, but she was holed up in a hotel, not allowed to leave the room for 3 days, was escorted to the bathroom, and its quite possible she was strip searched during her stay. I went through Honolulu without a transit visa (18 hours) and came witthin a whisker of being arrested and incarcerated.


Going through a country or overstaying without a valid visa is a serious crime and they dont give a 'get out of jail free' to white people.
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PostPosted: Fri May 14, 2004 9:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shmooj, I don't wish to underestimate you genius, but...What it?

-You or your wife became sick?
-An accident occured?
-One of the above happened to a dear friend?
-You became embroiled in an intense financial squabble with your employer in Japan?
-You were robbed and found yourself financially unable to make the move?
-Any other untimely misfortune befell you?

Certainly I'd agree that the people in the article probably just made a stupid decision or lack of one, but since I don't know the full circumstances as to why the missed the expiration date I'm a little hesitent to start forming the line for the guillotine.
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PostPosted: Sat May 15, 2004 9:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

guest of Japan wrote:
Shmooj, I don't wish to underestimate you genius, but...What it?

-You or your wife became sick?
-An accident occured?
-One of the above happened to a dear friend?
-You became embroiled in an intense financial squabble with your employer in Japan?
-You were robbed and found yourself financially unable to make the move?
-Any other untimely misfortune befell you?


... then I wouldn't want to add fuel to the fire and I would be all the more careful.

Yeah... what if?

What really gets me is that the scenario quoted happens all the time to those who come here illegally and then return to their own homeland. I knew plenty or Filipinos, Nigerians, a Nepali and several more from African nations. They all had to run the gauntlet and they all paid the price. They got no sympathy because they had broken the law.

The only difference between them, who I'm sure you think deserve their punishment, and those in the OP, are that they did it with premeditation.

Should/Can immigration laws take premeditation into account? I think not because it is very difficult to prove unlike in, say, homicide cases.

So, those in the OP got the same deal that a flagrant violator would get and therefore I give them the same amount of sympathy.

I can't see how it could be otherwise.

Of course, if it ever does happen to me, I will make sure I follow your advice and throw the old "Ah yes, I'm sorry but I became embroiled in an intense financial squabble with my employer in Japan." line at them. I'm sure it'll be fine then Wink
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PostPosted: Tue May 18, 2004 4:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe I`m simply the opposite of a genius, but I don`t know the word, but if you`re leaving the country and you get arrested for staying too long, and then you have to stay longer, what does it solve? Confused

Why not arrest the people working under false visas, the people shipping in the illegal workers or the crime bosses?

Or am I just dumb?

Ps I`m fairly sure that some of the "facts" in the original article were wrong..

PPS Did you know that the Japanese officials are trying to identify a "foreign gene and foreign DNA" so they can figure out which crimes were committed by "foreigners".

Aren`t they aware that no such DNA exists?
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PostPosted: Sat May 22, 2004 2:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ScottishMike wrote:


PPS Did you know that the Japanese officials are trying to identify a "foreign gene and foreign DNA" so they can figure out which crimes were committed by "foreigners".

Aren`t they aware that no such DNA exists?

Despite claims by Scottish scientists that there is Wink

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