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teflguyusa
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 Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2015 1:32 am Post subject: Global |
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7969
Joined: 26 Mar 2003
Posts: 5782
Location: Coastal Guangdong
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| Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2015 4:17 am Post subject: Re: Y&Z Global Education Enhancement Center |
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| teflguyusa wrote: |
| Hi, just warning future teachers about this "Education" company in China. It's not a professional working company to work there. They have a foreign recruiter married to the Chinese co-founder who puts ads on eslcafe or other sites advertising jobs with their company on the popular cities in China where they have schools, "Shanghai" Haikou, Guangzhou, Chengdu, they use this as bait, once they got your attention and you submitted your documents, they will interview at first for the position at this school in that city, but then a couple of weeks later they will send you an email asking you if you would consider teaching at another of their schools but in a smaller city in China where no one really wants to go work. |
I'd be more pissed if I was told I was going to a different school in a city other than the one that was agreed upon AFTER I arrived. At least, according to you, they ask first if it's ok if you'd mind working elsewhere. If it's not ok then insist on the first school, or don't accept the contract.
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| Besides this aspect, they also write up vague contracts with no real specification of what you will teach, especially for the regular English classes, once you get to the school they will start adding classes to your schedule that you were not informed at the beginning of your interview with the recruiter. Them being not specific about the subject and classes you will teach allows them to just give you a basic salary, so, there is no way that you can know what you should be really earning since they are not telling you upfront what you will be teaching. |
Some of this could be worrisome but you try to solve the problem by asking for the contract to be a bit more specific. Maximum number of hours, which subject, and what is the salary. Nobody in their right mind signs a contract not knowing what they'll teach or what the workload is. "Oh you want to add some classes to my regular workload taking me over the maximum hours? What's the rate of overtime pay for that please?" Inform yourself, tell them what you expect and don't sign a contract full of ambiguous clauses.
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| The apartment they give you inside the school is also very simple and basic, tiny kitchen, bathroom is old, very old, lots of mosquito's flying at night that keep you awake! They do not offer any housing allowance to rent an apartment outside the school. |
Other than the mosquitos (which can easily be dealt with by various means, screens, mosquito coils, close the door) I don't see much of a problem with the flat the way you've described it. In future request a few photos of the place first. If you said the apartment was falling apart, had mold all over the walls, squat toilet with rats crawling up the hole, or was directly above a train station then that's not a place I'd want to live. Schools with free on-campus housing don't usually offer a housing allowance if you want to live somewhere else.
| teflguyusa wrote: |
| Be careful with this company, they are not to be trusted. |
Judging by your post this recruiter doesn't even crack the top 100 of shady recruiters on this forum. Ask questions, get things written more clearly, and if satisfied take the job. If not move on.
You didn't mention at all some of the most important aspects of the employment. Does the recruiter help you get a work visa, either themselves or through the school? (If the answer to that question is NO then you were working illegally and shouldn't have been there in the first place). Do they pay you on time and in full? Does the contract have any other benefits and were those honoured? Were you generally well-treated by the schools? Answers to these questions are (for me anyway) a better indication of people that are good (or not good) to work for. |
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GreatApe
Joined: 11 Apr 2012
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Location: South of Heaven and East of Nowhere
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| Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2015 7:28 am Post subject: |
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I have to say that I agree with 7969. Most (if not ALL) of the OP's complaints could have been dealt with long before signing a contract to work for the school and long before arriving in-country.
It pays to do your homework (and lots of it!), consistently and before you take up a job in a foreign country. If not, don't be surprised when things don't turn out to be "as advertised." This happens to natives and non-natives in every country.
I wouldn't describe this school as "shady" ... actually, I would describe it as "fairly typical" as regards language centers/schools in the PRC. Teachers who don't ask detailed questions prior to accepting a job at a school shouldn't be surprised with the answers they find once they arrive at the school.
All that glitters is NOT gold. Protect yourself: C.Y.A. (Cover Your @ss) and do your due diligence before signing the contract or accepting a job.
--GA |
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