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TheOdyssey · Joined: 28 Feb 2015 Posts: 7

Hello. Could someone enlighten me as to the meaning of this?

"If the work to be done takes less than a month, the payment shall be made by the day, each being one thirtieth of the monthly salary."

At first glance it seems obvious enough, but the more I think about it, the more confused I become. Shocked

For reference, this IS for a teaching position.

Thanks.

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7969 · Joined: 26 Mar 2003 Posts: 5782 Location: Coastal Guangdong

The answer is the obvious one. If the work takes 20 days you get paid for 20 days, not 30 or 31. Without any more information to add context it's hard to say what is really meant though. All kinds of possibilities here.

Non Sequitur · Joined: 23 May 2010 Posts: 4724 Location: China

My take is that if say you start on the 15th of the month you get 15/30ths of the pay for that month. Similarly, if you finish on say 25th you get 25/30ths.
We would say pro rata pay for part months.

zacharybilton · Joined: 23 Apr 2015 Posts: 118

It's unfortunate you don't understand this...

Never agree to such a thing.

Apparently nobody understands the concept of salary versus hourly employ.

Then there is the issue of "30" days per month as the divisor versus, for example, 20 days (20 working days - 5 days per week x 4 weeks per month).

Any job that is trying to do this should be avoided.

Salaried jobs are salary; which means, a fixed amount of money for a maximum agreed upon amount of work. Work one hour, get one month of pay.

But hey, if you can't understand that basic sentence, then there are bigger issues.

Non Sequitur · Joined: 23 May 2010 Posts: 4724 Location: China

It's unfortunate you don't understand this...

This is you in a nutshell Zachary. Always the ad hominem put down.

Son of Bud Powell · Joined: 04 Mar 2015 Posts: 179 Location: Since 2003

I've seen this in contracts. I believe it was in the context of overtime work or extended contracts. I don't believe it pertained to anything in the middle of the term. Can you provide the context?

roadwalker · Joined: 24 Aug 2005 Posts: 1750 Location: Ch

I agree with ZB on this one: unless you work every day of the month, the pro rata divisor shouldn't be 30 or 31, but rather in the 20 to 22 range.

Non Sequitur · Joined: 23 May 2010 Posts: 4724 Location: China

The OP says '30'.
The higher the divisor the better it is for the employer, but certainly not uncommon.
When make up days are scheduled, they always involve working on weekends so they are not a 'no go' zone as some seem to imply.
There's nothing ambiguous about it.

TheOdyssey · Joined: 28 Feb 2015 Posts: 7

Non Sequitur · Joined: 23 May 2010 Posts: 4724 Location: China

20 class hours is a max and you'll likely do 14, 16 or 18. Trouble is if you are starting beginning Sept you likely won't know your detailed schedule until you arrive and maybe only on the night before classes start. If you are arriving at a random time to take over from another teacher then you may get more info up front.
As has been covered recently on another thread a 'teaching hour' is 45 or 50 mins.
Back to the pro rated days it really comes into play in Feb when the lunar NY gives the start of the holiday. It moves around i.e. this year (2015) 18 Feb was NY Eve, but in 2016 it's around 8th I think.
If you have a deal that pays NY break then there shouldn't be any prorating, but TIC as always!

TheOdyssey · Joined: 28 Feb 2015 Posts: 7

For this position, I would be paid the equivalent of a month's salary for Winter Break, so I guess that answers my question. Thanks.

asiannationmc · Joined: 13 Aug 2014 Posts: 1342

prorated salary