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bigjoe
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 Posted: Sat May 09, 2015 5:52 am Post subject: Nova Employee Commits Suicide |
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Can someone chime in and shed some light here on what happened at Nova back in 2007? I couldn't find an English-language news article referring to this tragedy. Was the employee a foreigner who climbed up the ranks from a teacher?
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| (From Wikipedia) The parents of a Nova employee who committed suicide in 2004 filed a suit against the company on 31 August 2007. Their son, age 28 at the time, was employed by Nova to design and supervise the construction of new classrooms. During that period Nova was engaged in a rapid expansion meant to increase the number of Nova branches by 300 in an attempt to reach a total of 1,000. The parents' suit alleges that their son was required by Nova to work up to 80 hours of overtime in one month, and even through the night on seven occasions, despite his inexperience. At one point he had requested to be relieved but was persuaded to stay, which eventually led to overwhelming stress shortly before his suicide. |
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RustyShackleford
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| Posted: Sat May 09, 2015 1:49 pm Post subject: |
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| Design and supervision of a classroom (implying some sort of construction) sounds like something they wouldn't have a foreigner doing in that capacity, especially a NOVA. That's just my uneducated guess, however. |
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RM1983
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| Posted: Sat May 09, 2015 5:32 pm Post subject: Re: Nova Employee Commits Suicide |
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| bigjoe wrote: |
Can someone chime in and shed some light here on what happened at Nova back in 2007? I couldn't find an English-language news article referring to this tragedy. Was the employee a foreigner who climbed up the ranks from a teacher?
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| (From Wikipedia) The parents of a Nova employee who committed suicide in 2004 filed a suit against the company on 31 August 2007. Their son, age 28 at the time, was employed by Nova to design and supervise the construction of new classrooms. During that period Nova was engaged in a rapid expansion meant to increase the number of Nova branches by 300 in an attempt to reach a total of 1,000. The parents' suit alleges that their son was required by Nova to work up to 80 hours of overtime in one month, and even through the night on seven occasions, despite his inexperience. At one point he had requested to be relieved but was persuaded to stay, which eventually led to overwhelming stress shortly before his suicide. |
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Agree it probably wasnt a gaijin. I hope youre not planning to work for NOVA though. If so I need to PM you |
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bigjoe
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| Posted: Sat May 09, 2015 10:59 pm Post subject: Re: Nova Employee Commits Suicide |
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| RM1983 wrote: |
| bigjoe wrote: |
Can someone chime in and shed some light here on what happened at Nova back in 2007? I couldn't find an English-language news article referring to this tragedy. Was the employee a foreigner who climbed up the ranks from a teacher?
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| (From Wikipedia) The parents of a Nova employee who committed suicide in 2004 filed a suit against the company on 31 August 2007. Their son, age 28 at the time, was employed by Nova to design and supervise the construction of new classrooms. During that period Nova was engaged in a rapid expansion meant to increase the number of Nova branches by 300 in an attempt to reach a total of 1,000. The parents' suit alleges that their son was required by Nova to work up to 80 hours of overtime in one month, and even through the night on seven occasions, despite his inexperience. At one point he had requested to be relieved but was persuaded to stay, which eventually led to overwhelming stress shortly before his suicide. |
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Agree it probably wasnt a gaijin. I hope youre not planning to work for NOVA though. If so I need to PM you |
Only as a last resort to get my foot in the door to Japan, perhaps. I've sent 10+ resumes to eikaiwas/ALT dispatch companies since Sunday (May 3) but haven't gotten a response from any since.
I applied to Interac on Thursday, so I hope to hear back from a recruiter this week.
If you have experience with NOVA, please share it with me in a PM. |
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nightsintodreams
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| Posted: Sun May 10, 2015 1:19 am Post subject: |
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| Just give it time, I'm sure you'll get some responses. If not then there's probably something wrong with your CV/cover letter. Get someone to take s look at it if you haven't heard anything in a month or two, rewrite it and then send it out to them again. |
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jkozera
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| I declined a job offer with NOVA once I read the contract, the pay seemed to be like commission based, like if my students got sick and don't make it, I lose money |
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bigjoe
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| Posted: Mon May 11, 2015 3:14 am Post subject: |
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| jkozera wrote: |
| I declined a job offer with NOVA once I read the contract, the pay seemed to be like commission based, like if my students got sick and don't make it, I lose money |
Sounds like how GABA operates too. |
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RM1983
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| Posted: Mon May 11, 2015 11:11 am Post subject: |
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| jkozera wrote: |
| I declined a job offer with NOVA once I read the contract, the pay seemed to be like commission based, like if my students got sick and don't make it, I lose money |
That and a lot more. I was in the camp of "seem reformed, whatever" but they actually seem to be less than legit, and scummier than ever if
possible. Id avoid at all costs, whatever people might say. My opinion though |
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MuscatGary
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| Posted: Mon May 11, 2015 11:14 am Post subject: |
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| Wasn't it Nova who didn't pay their teachers for months years ago? |
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RM1983
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| Posted: Mon May 11, 2015 11:21 am Post subject: |
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| Wasn't it Nova who didn't pay their teachers for months years ago? |
There was that when they folded and left lots of people homeless yeah, and they are still going claiming they are reformed. I believed this to a point, but I heard that they are still very corrupt |
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MuscatGary
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| Posted: Mon May 11, 2015 11:28 am Post subject: |
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| RM1983 wrote: |
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| Wasn't it Nova who didn't pay their teachers for months years ago? |
There was that when they folded and left lots of people homeless yeah, and they are still going claiming they are reformed. I believed this to a point, but I heard that they are still very corrupt |
Thought so, I rescued two of their teachers by employing them and flying them to India. With that track record anyone who works for them deserves all they get. |
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Shakey
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In 2012 I was staying in a room at Sakura House in Shibuya when one day I received some postal mail from NOVA addressed to a young man. Assuming it was the guy living in the same room at some point before I arrived, I thought I would do the guy a favor and let him know I had some mail for him. I thought it might be some money for him since NOVA had gone bankrupt and was slowly trying to pay back the teachers that they had suddenly laid off.
So I got online and searched for the young man's name. It turns out that he was Canadian and worked for NOVA, but that he had committed suicide while living in Tokyo and working at NOVA. At the time, I was able to find his obituary in a Vancouver area newspaper and I even found contact information for his parents.
In the end, deciding not to contact his family or mess around with NOVA or Sakura House, I opened the mail, saw that it was a check for about $70 and just tore it up and threw it in the garbage.
I wonder if this could be the person mentioned in the OP's post. I no longer remember the guy's name but I believe he committed suicide in Tokyo around 2008 - 2009 and was from the Vancouver suburb of Richmond. |
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RustyShackleford
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That's probably (and hopefully) the saddest thing I'll read this week Shakey.  RIP to that young man.
Back to the main topic, if it were foreigner, I think the Japanese press would mention it. The media gets a lot of flack when they don't report that it's a Zainichi Korean or whatever doing the crime but they typically (I.e. 99.999999999% of the time I can think of) say that the person is a foreigner. |
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G Cthulhu
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| Posted: Wed May 13, 2015 4:03 pm Post subject: Re: Nova Employee Commits Suicide |
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| bigjoe wrote: |
| I've sent 10+ resumes to eikaiwas/ALT dispatch companies since Sunday (May 3) but haven't gotten a response from any since. |
Given it can take up to six months, it would be interesting to know what you expected? |
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bigjoe
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| Posted: Thu May 14, 2015 6:42 am Post subject: Re: Nova Employee Commits Suicide |
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| G Cthulhu wrote: |
| bigjoe wrote: |
| I've sent 10+ resumes to eikaiwas/ALT dispatch companies since Sunday (May 3) but haven't gotten a response from any since. |
Given it can take up to six months, it would be interesting to know what you expected? |
I would expect a turnaround time of about a week or two, just like applying for a job here in the States. |
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