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Andros



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 26, 2015 12:29 am    Post subject: Advice on Where I should Live! Reply with quote

Hi guys,

I am looking for some advice on where I should make my next port of call.

A little bit about myself, I am an Australian, mid 30s, I have a BA, a masters in Journalism and I am about 2 months away from a masters in tesol. I have about 10 years experience in Japan, Korea, Brasil, Italy, Vietnam and in China. My last job has been for about 3 years at a uni in China. I have a Celta.

I am looking for a place I can stay long term, pays well (enough to consider the place a home and not be scraping by), has holidays to travel, teaching adults (preferably a uni), tropical and near beaches. I am also considering doing further study, so I need a position that will allow me to do that. I know that is a tall order, however I don't expect all of those things! That is just an ideal situation.

So, does anybody have any ideas? Any advice is very much appreciated.

I am already ruling out China, I have a decent position here, but it is time for a change. I do not particularly care which continent I am on.
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esl_prof



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 26, 2015 12:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You might post this inquiry over on the Middle East forums. My initial thought is that would be the place to fulfill most of your criteria.
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Andros



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 26, 2015 1:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you esl_prof, I will do that now.

All suggestions are welcome!
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happyinshangqiu



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 26, 2015 1:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Malaysia sounds to fit the bill, Oman maybe.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 26, 2015 2:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oman.
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Andros



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 26, 2015 4:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I posted on the middle east forums and I am asking them about Oman.

As for Malaysia, I am mostly looking for a Uni position, how are the job conditions in Malaysia? I have sent my employment package to the Uni of Nottingham.

I have been looking into unis in Thailand, but the pay looks to be incredibly low. And Vietnam's pay has decreased significantly in the last couple of years, not to mention the lack of uni jobs there.
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happyinshangqiu



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 26, 2015 6:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Andros wrote:
I posted on the middle east forums and I am asking them about Oman.

As for Malaysia, I am mostly looking for a Uni position, how are the job conditions in Malaysia? I have sent my employment package to the Uni of Nottingham.

I have been looking into unis in Thailand, but the pay looks to be incredibly low. And Vietnam's pay has decreased significantly in the last couple of years, not to mention the lack of uni jobs there.


I got a prompt, positive reply from the University of Newcastle in Johor Bahru - I suggest giving them a try too, good luck!
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En929



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 28, 2015 2:44 am    Post subject: Re: Advice on Where I should Live! Reply with quote

Andros wrote:
Hi guys,

I am looking for some advice on where I should make my next port of call.

A little bit about myself, I am an Australian, mid 30s, I have a BA, a masters in Journalism and I am about 2 months away from a masters in tesol. I have about 10 years experience in Japan, Korea, Brasil, Italy, Vietnam and in China. My last job has been for about 3 years at a uni in China. I have a Celta.

I am looking for a place I can stay long term, pays well (enough to consider the place a home and not be scraping by), has holidays to travel, teaching adults (preferably a uni), tropical and near beaches. I am also considering doing further study, so I need a position that will allow me to do that. I know that is a tall order, however I don't expect all of those things! That is just an ideal situation.

So, does anybody have any ideas? Any advice is very much appreciated.

I am already ruling out China, I have a decent position here, but it is time for a change. I do not particularly care which continent I am on.


While you are leaving China, I'm actually about to go into China. Did you like China? What are your thoughts on being a teacher there and what are your thoughts regarding being in China? Does it seems like jobs in China are getting more and more competitive? I'm just curious.
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MotherF



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 28, 2015 3:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You might want to look at Mexico. The only problem would be having enough money to travel back to Australia. I work in a university system in the state of Oaxaca that would pay you enough to live well and give you a chance to work on further studies. There are multiple locations around the stare some near beaches.
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Andros



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 30, 2015 3:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks guys,

MotherF, I hadn't considered mexico, I have worked in Brasil and that ended up costing me money once I had paid for plane tickets. It does sound like a similar situations to what I have now, low working hours, near beaches etc, but I wonder about the long term prospects of something like that.

Ideally I would like a position that offers me the university life but with the pay that means I can stay somewhere long term and build some kind of life. But perhaps those days are gone and are only available to a few.

At this point I have sent out some cvs to some places mentioned above and I will see what happens. I am happy to stay here another year as I have probably missed some of the better jobs, and make a serious attempt at job hunting in the early parts of next year.
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Andros



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 30, 2015 3:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

And EN929,

I can recommend China, especially in a university. If you have read the chinese forums, you will see that you should not use a recruiter, and should find a list of universities (wikipedia can help here) and apply directly to the unis. The recruiters offer dodgy contracts.

Experiences can vary depending on the uni, so make sure you talk to some current teachers. Essentially what you get is low working hours, freedom of teaching, students that care for their grades and therefore will generally work hard enough to obtain a decent grade, and long holidays. You can save some money, but the value of the currency is low, so it doesnt mean that you take much money home.

There are some negatives of course, you probably will just be the foreign teacher and not considered as important as the other teachers (perhaps that is common in many places!). There may be little or no support in teaching methodology, materials, etc. The classrooms may be basic. Also life in China can be frustrating as people never follow rules, the quality of service can be disastrous, taxi drivers are essentially thieves, the government, etc. But once you get settled in, make some friends, you can enjoy it here. I usually move from one place to another every year, but i have been here almost 3 years now and if nothing comes up shortly i will do a 4th year.

If you have some specific questions, feel free to ask me, or pm me.
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MotherF



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 30, 2015 1:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Andros wrote:
Thanks guys,

MotherF, I hadn't considered mexico, I have worked in Brasil and that ended up costing me money once I had paid for plane tickets. It does sound like a similar situations to what I have now, low working hours, near beaches etc, but I wonder about the long term prospects of something like that.

Ideally I would like a position that offers me the university life but with the pay that means I can stay somewhere long term and build some kind of life. But perhaps those days are gone and are only available to a few.

At this point I have sent out some cvs to some places mentioned above and I will see what happens. I am happy to stay here another year as I have probably missed some of the better jobs, and make a serious attempt at job hunting in the early parts of next year.


I've worked in a Mexican university for over 15 years. Several of my colleagues have been here almost that long as well. We have good long term benefits, and I built a house on my Mexican income. The only problem is the exchange rate and buying plane tickets, especially for someone from Australia. I'm from the US, but have three kids, so buying us all plane tickets from Christmas sets me back about two months pay. Check out the Mexico forum for threads on universities.
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In the heat of the moment



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PostPosted: Sat May 30, 2015 8:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I am looking for a place I can stay long term, pays well (enough to consider the place a home and not be scraping by), has holidays to travel, teaching adults (preferably a uni), tropical and near beaches.


If you find this imaginary, fantastic Shangri La, please feel free to tell us about it!
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BadBeagleBad



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PostPosted: Sat May 30, 2015 3:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Andros wrote:
Thanks guys,

MotherF, I hadn't considered mexico, I have worked in Brasil and that ended up costing me money once I had paid for plane tickets. It does sound like a similar situations to what I have now, low working hours, near beaches etc, but I wonder about the long term prospects of something like that.

Ideally I would like a position that offers me the university life but with the pay that means I can stay somewhere long term and build some kind of life. But perhaps those days are gone and are only available to a few.


Not really. Actually the opposite it true. Mexico is not a good place to work short term, especially if you have few qualifications, aside from speaking English, but can be a great place to stay long term, especially with the qualifications you have. The benefits required by the government are quite good, and while starting pay might be on the lowish side, so, also, is the cost of living. Better than converting your pay in pesos to your home currency, it would be more accurate to investigate just what that pay can buy in the place you are looking to live. What seems like low pay by US/UK standards can be quite good pay by Mexican standards. Like MotherF I have lived in Mexico for many years, most of them in Mexico City and while I went a different route than she did - I had a number of different jobs, rather than staying in one position - my pay did go up, as did the responsibility in the jobs I had, and I was also able to buy an apartment in Mexico City on my pay, save for retirement, and am now helping my son through college in the US.
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