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Quite
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 Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2015 11:47 am Post subject: China Internship Scam + Wrong Visa = Jail & Deportation |
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There is a lot of confusion about what visa is required for doing an internship in China. Not knowing will cost you an embarrassing arrest, a $2,000 fine, and then deportation with a 3 year reentry ban.
http://www.realscam.com/f8/gi2c-china-internship-scams-can-get-you-jailed-deported-3991/
According to Chinese law (as of September/2013) it is illegal for foreigners to do a mainland China internship UNLESS...
a) You are enrolled in accredited university and registered as an exchange student.
b) You are a "registered delegate" of a registered foundation, museum, NGO, or NPO.
c) You are a musician, artist, actor, dancer, or performer in a government-approved public performance (ie A symphony orchestra, doing a public art exhibition, or part of some dance troupe like Riverdance)
So IF you fall into one of these three groups you need to have a q1, Z, or M visa to legally do an internship. Also no internship in China can be unpaid any longer unless you are a Chinese university student, and by law "No internship can exceed 90 executive days".
About a dozen dodgy private internship companies are selling pricey internships and don't care about what visa you use so long as they get paid. There is no need to pay for a China internship when you can get one free directly from the Fortune 500 and MNC companies that sponsor them for FREE (except your air fare). See this link here... http://chinainternshipreviews.wordpress.com for the best-rated ones.
P.S. Hong Kong internships are a lot less restrictive and actually pay real money! |
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Quite
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Son of Bud Powell
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So IF you fall into one of these three groups you need to have a q1, Z, or M visa to legally do an internship. Also no internship in China can be unpaid any longer unless you are a Chinese university student, and by law "No internship can exceed 90 executive days".
So which one? This not at all helpful. |
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Quite
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| Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2015 4:40 am Post subject: |
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| Son of Bud Powell wrote: |
So IF you fall into one of these three groups you need to have a q1, Z, or M visa to legally do an internship. Also no internship in China can be unpaid any longer unless you are a Chinese university student, and by law "No internship can exceed 90 executive days".
So which one? This not at all helpful. |
According to my visa agent...
Q1 is used by registered exchange students
M is used by "delegates" of a registered cultural foundations, NGOs, charities, and performers.
Z visas are for interns who have guaranteed employment upon the completion of their internship training period.
Like everything in China, you have to hunt this stuff down in English. Now I have yet another incentive to learn Chinese. Did you ever get the feeling that the Chinese want us to know as little as possible while we are here? |
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nomad soul
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How so? How are you relating the situation of Americans interning with companies in the US to foreigners avoiding deportation from China while trying to get an internship at a Chinese company? Please elaborate because I'm sure I'm not the only one who doesn't see the relevance of the US article you referenced to what's happening in another culture and country on the other side of the planet. |
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tlkdmc
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| I think it takes little to know brains to not fall for these so-called scams. I mean, if you're not capable of reading the visa rules and regulations on your own then you deserve to be jailed and/or deported. Just because some organization that wants your money tells you something and you believe them without doing independent research - such as OFFICIAL GOVERNMENT pages and rules/regs/faq, etc. then you deserve it. |
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Quite
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tlkdmc
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