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[Healer]

Hello all, I am totally new at this
I am in the states for now but I could accept n offer from this Yang-En Uni.
I think it is in Quanzhou, Fujian province
If any one would spare a moment to help me here?
Regards.
H.

[anthyp]

Could you be a bit more specific? Are you looking for information about the city or the school? Or do you want general advice about what it's like working here? What do you want us to help you with?!

[Healer]

HO!? sorry - can you guys help with the school, I think they call it Yang En University.
Basically what reputation has it?

Also after reading a bench of stuff on Fujian state it sounds like an "antique state" ...,

Quanzhou has no westerners [???] I mean nothing like Shanghai or Beijing, just a guess... but it's a town of 6 millions, so what do we do there?

I can't tell how far the U is from Quanzhou

Last, can't tell neither how far is the sea from Quanzhou

Regards.
H.

[Roger]

I don't know En An University myself, but there have been a huge number of overwhelmingly negative posts.
A repeated complaint was that the uni is inconveniently far out of town, with poor transportation links.
That should be easy to verify.

Another point - perhaps less easy to check out - is that many people complained they were harassed by the administration. While one never knows the whole truth in such situations, one featucaught my attention: several posters claimed they were physically hindered from leaving with their luggage for apparently trifling reasons.

As for Quanzhou: it's a nondescript town halfway between Shantou in Guangdong and Fuzhou. There isn't much to see there but in general, Fujian province is well-to-do.
Xiamen is a nice destination nearby.

[millie]

I worked at Yang-En some years ago.
It is money machine for Boss Wu and I suggest you find somewhere else.

QuanZhou is a nice enough town with an Old Mosque and a few other sights.
But it is a quite a bus ride from YEU.
There is a post on the Info journal <http://www.eslcafe.com/jobinfo>
(not mine) It sounds about right
http://www.eslcafe.com/jobinfo/asia/sefer.cgi?display:1083348130-75385.txt

M

[expteacher]

The person who wrote that article was sacked for harassing students and other staff. Don't believe everything you read.

[millie]

exapt teacher wrote:

[Healer]

Dear all,

Well first of all I surely appreciate your time in this matter, Millie' post is incendiary then expteacher runs her down.
What to think?
I have talked over the tel with a mister Mei Guoping - Vice President,

Article 4 is much too vague...

This is the CONTRACT:

2. The period of service covered by this Contract shall be 10 months from Sep 1, 2004 to Jul 5, 2005

3. The Second Party agrees to teach the following assigned courses
a. English and or Computer
b.

4. The Second Party shall teach a total of 12 to 14 classroom hours per week excluding the time spent on lesson plans; preparing and grading homework, quizzes and mid-term and final exams; and, a reasonable period o student coaching. The scheduled rate of overtime rate shall be paid for all classroom hours exceeding 14 hours per week. He or she shall also participate in the weekly � English Corner � and when asked to do so assist with periodic �Student Speech Contests.� Should he or she be invited to serve as a graduation thesis advisor and oral defense judge he or she shall receive the scheduled rate of pay for each such thesis.

5. The Second Party shall be paid a base annual salary of 55,000 RMB in 10 equal monthly instalments of_5,500 _RMB.

6. An airfare allowance of USD 1,000 shall be paid to the Second Party in cash at the end of the Contract period.

7. The Second Party shall prepare his or her lectures in a professional manner. And outline of each lecture shall be submitted in advance to the English Department and the Dean�s Office respectively and one copy retained.

8. Lecture outlines and notes used by the Second Party for teaching shall generally confirm with the course description and textbooks provided by the Dean�s Office.

9. The Second Party shall be assigned to and serve under the supervision of the Business Department.

10. These articles together with the Terms of Contract form one non-separable part of the contract and each page shall be strictly observed by both Parties. Any disputes arising from the Contract shall be settled by mutual consultation by the Parties.

11. If the First Party suffers any serious loss or damage caused by the irresponsible behavior or a deliberate breach of Contract by the Second party, the First party reserves the right to sue the Second Party in his or her country of residence.

12. This contract, written in English, will go into effect on the date it is signed, and must be signed in triplicate of which two copies will be kept by the First Party and one copy kept by the Second Party.

TERMS OF THIS CONTRACT

1. The Second Party shall abide by the Constitution, Laws and Decrees of the People�s Republic of China.
It is expected that the Second Party familiarizes with contents of the Regulations for Students in order to educate them.

2. The working period in an academic year allotted and vacations stipulated by the First Party for the Second Party:
a. The summer vacation for every academic year stipulated by the First Party is from July 6 to August 31, while the winter vacation is decided as per the Chinese New Year. Because of the leap month on the Chinese lunar calendar, the difference between the Chinese New Year and the New Year on the Gregorian calendar is at most, about one month.
b. The Second Party, who starts teaching work on September 1 till July 5 the next year, when he/she hands in the grades of the students to the First Party, will be regarded that he/she has fulfilled the teaching task stipulated in the contract and can leave the University.
c. The Second Party, who starts teaching work after the winter vacation, i.e. the Chinese New Year, till before the winter vacation, i.e. the Chinese New Year, the next year, when he/she hands in the grades of the students to the First Party, will be regarded that he/she has fulfilled the teaching task stipulated in the contract and can leave the University.

3. If the Second Party wants to use other more suitable teaching materials, he/she may request permission from the Dean�s Office. If approved, the teaching materials will be printed and distributed by the First Party.

4. If the Second Party wants to teach another course in addition to the courses decided by the Dean�s Office, the Second Party may apply to the Dean, upon whose approval, the course can be taught by the Second Party. Extra pay will be agreed on by both parties.

5. Deviation from approved teaching schedules, changing classrooms, using VIDEO and VCD material should be approved and arranged by the Dean�s Office.

6. The Second Party is to keep the �Roll Book� up to date and reports absentees at dates prescribed by the Dean (academic).

7. In order to improve students� English, the Second Party should not ask others to be translator in class.

8. If students should complain about the teacher�s teaching methods, the Dean�s Office will investigate such complaints. If the complaints are true, they should be discussed with the Second Party and dealt with by the Teaching Investigation Committee. It is expected that the Second Party will correct them.

9. The Second Party is responsible for the preparation of test and examination papers(examination paper A, examination paper B and answers to the Dean), correcting and marking the test and examination papers diligently and with care, and reporting students� grades to the Dean (academic) within three days after midterm test and final examination dates.

The Second Party shall when appropriate also act as a judge for the YEU Practical English Test taken by students of the assigned courses listed in Paragraph 3 herein.

10. Extra pay for extra classes will be paid as per degrees, the titles and teaching quality.
When the Second Party thinks it necessary to run a make-up training class on the bases of collecting tuition fees from students, the Second Party will apply to the Dean�s Office. When approved, the First Party will arrange classrooms for the purpose.

11. Leave for serious health reasons or for family emergencies has to be substantiated by an official doctor�s certificate. The Second Party can leave only when a substitute teacher is arranged.
During the period of leave, the First Party will not pay the Second Party his/her salary and the airfare will be borne by the Second Party. The salary of the substitute teacher will be paid by the First Party. If the Second Party comes back in time to teach until the contract is ended, the airfare already contracted will be paid by the First Party.

12. Should the Second Party wish to cancel the contract in the implement of this contract, he/she should inform the First Party three months ahead of time. The Second Party is responsible for helping to hire a substitute teacher. If the substitute teacher comes to the University ahead of time, then the Second Party can leave earlier. The airfare will be borne by the Second Party.

13. The Second Party during having contract with the First Party must refrain from:
a. doing any missionary work including Buddhism, Christianity, Catholicism, Islam, Taoism etc. or organising others to be the followers of the above religions, or organising others to hold religious celebration, but followers of a religion may celebrate among themselves.
b. any political activity.
c. having romantic involvement with any student or marrying students.
d. drinking alcoholic drinks and smoking with students or gambling with students.
e. leaking exam papers or giving hints of the exam questions to students.
f. inviting students to their living quarters.
g. visiting students in the dormitories.

14. The First Party will provide the necessary textbooks and the relevant teaching materials, which remain the property of the First Party and have to be returned to the Dean�s Office at the end of all teaching activities.

15. The First Party will provide the Second Party with a furnished, air-conditioned bachelor or family apartment according to the Second Party�s family circumstances, equipped with colour TV set, refrigerator, telephone, small kitchen and shower room. The cost of repairs caused by normal wear and tear of the above equipment will be borne by the First Party. However, the cost of repairs caused by misuse will be borne by the Second Party. When the Second Party moves in to the apartment upon his/her arrival, he/she may check on the equipment and sign for acceptance. When the Second Party leaves the University, the First Party will check on all the equipment. Any damage should be paid by the Second Party.

16. The Second Party will be charged for water, electricity and the use of a telephone according to metered consumption. Medical costs incurred at the University�s hospital and pharmacy or elsewhere as well as any type of insurance are the responsibility of the Second Party.

17. The First Party will, as a service, provide every other Saturday free transportation to the nearest large city (Quanzhou) for the purpose of purchasing special items.

Note: All the above terms on the back page are inseparable parts of this entire contract.

[waxwing]

I'm not quite sure what you think the point is of posting the entire contract. Do you think it is truly binding on your employer? Maybe you haven't read enough of this website.
China's a big place, from what I've heard.

[Healer]

[chinaboytian]

I worked there for one year. Check out my post from older forums on here. There have been seven posts about Yang En.

Anything specific you would like to ask, you can PM me, I will answer.

chinaboytian

[chinaboytian]

Ah, yes, fond memories, beautiful scenery, a mountain in the near distance, green rice patties, being awakened at 6:00 Am (no later) by the sound of firecrackers in the distance, village cocks crowing, and peasants outside the building speaking loudly to each other, making it impossible for Westerners to sleep. Chinese are a very early culture, in the morning.

Villagers were cordial but not real open, they speak Min Nan Hua, unintelligible to Mandarin speakers, (also spoken in Taiwan).

There are no lawn mowers, workers cut the grass (when it is cut) with a scythe.

Boys do one thing, play basketball. That seems to be the only passtime, there are small restaurants at the gates of the campus, a couple small karaoke bars. It was a developing institution, a way and dream for boss Wu to make money. Students did not want to be there. They were the rejects who did not pass the test to get into a standard Chinese university.

The getaway was to Quanzhou, an hour's ride by bus. The school took the foreigners into the city once a week for shopping. The real getaway was to go with your students to their villages and see how the common people live. I stayed in a stone village that we journied by train, for three days, with my student. Xiamen was always an enjoyable trip, and GulangYu, the magical western-styled architecture, a small island you can walk around, the local Pizza Hut at the time was the only western-style food you could get in the entire region.

No milk at the time, no cheese (unless you like soy milk), I had to buy a chicken from a villager and she cleaned it for me. It was not a meaty chicken.

I bet things have changed a lot in nine years, since I lived there.

[jeffinflorida]

I was talking to an Aussie who worked at Yang En. They take them into the city once a week to shop at Xinwadu.

My friend applied there and said they now have direct bus service to Quanzhou city that takes about 35 minutes

[W.V. Orman]

What about all those reports of security guards beating a teacher? Is that true?

[jeffinflorida]

The report said it was a Chinese teacher who got beat down so who really cares...