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Hod



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 23, 2015 9:33 pm    Post subject: VW Scandal - German history repeating itself again and ... Reply with quote

No link. Google it.

If you drive a car in any developed country, you get a test every year or two to check all’s roadworthy. The garage tests the brakes, lights, bodywork, etc., and emissions. The latter is no biggie, but older cars lose efficiency and need adjustments to meet emissions limits.

VW found their brand new diesel cars won’t pass any emissions test on earth. Rather than fix that obvious and h-u-m-u-n-g-o-us problem, an equally humungous team of software engineers developed a program to detect when a car was in a test environment, i.e. vehicle stationary, steering wheel stationary, driver seat empty and seat belts unfastened. When in this state, the engine power was restricted and thus the emissions reduced to test passing levels.

Not surprisingly, this façade was discovered in a cloud of soot and carbon monoxide. VW’s Chief Exec resigned, VW have a huge bill and an even bigger team of “engineers” fixing the problem.

It’s just a one off, right? Why not fly to nearby Berlin and take a look? Moment mal, wait. BER Berlin Airport was due to open in 2010. Twenty-six days before the planned opening date, it was announced the airport wasn’t "quite" ready yet. Can you imagine the financial losses and hardship to individuals and their families in logistic companies, the taxi drivers, business owners, staff and, oh yes, the airlines, to be told this four weeks before? How can anyone be so cruel and uncaring to so many people’s livelihoods?

The airport still isn’t due to open until 2017 or 2018. This isn’t a couple of sub-standard toilets we’re talking here. We’re talking eight years late, huge construction work. So many people knew there were problems in 2010, but not one spoke up. Same as VW in 2015 and a couple of other examples I could mention.

Two reasons I never made a single German friend in eight years there: One, I tell the truth about how many German friends I have, and the other is I’m a very good judge of character.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 23, 2015 10:38 pm    Post subject: Dastardly Germans! Reply with quote

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I never made a single German friend in eight years there

Hod on 23 September 2015

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did I make any real German friends in six years there? Nein.

Hod on 6 October 2014

Make your mind up, old boy!
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 24, 2015 5:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

With that level of research and time on your hands, apply for a job at VW perhaps? Odd.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 24, 2015 6:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If someone can live in a country for eight years and not make one friend they need to take a look in the mirror to see where the problem is.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 24, 2015 8:20 am    Post subject: Pen pal Reply with quote

He hasn't had much luck after twelve years on Dave's ESL Cafe, either. It's all our fault, obviously. Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 24, 2015 8:55 am    Post subject: Re: Dastardly Germans! Reply with quote

Knedliki wrote:
If someone can live in a country for eight years and not make one friend they need to take a look in the mirror to see where the problem is.


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I never made a single German friend in eight years there


Another VW hopeful. Pay attention at the back, please.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 24, 2015 11:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Germanophobia is quite common amongst the English.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 24, 2015 11:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

and now environmentalists.

Maybe Germans measure friendship in the same way they measure diesel emissions.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 24, 2015 4:48 pm    Post subject: Double talk Reply with quote

The scandal isn't about how Germans measure diesel emissions; it's about a German company manipulating emissions tests.

Blaming a whole nation for the misdeeds of one company is rather harsh. And to think that less than a year ago Hod was singing the praises of the Teutonic ones!

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I love Germany as a country and acknowledge that its people and social systems are second to none.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 24, 2015 5:04 pm    Post subject: Re: Double talk Reply with quote

If you don't mind, I won't comment on my old posts you've spent time reading. I should be flattered, but I find such behaviour disturbing.

Congratulations, however, on your return to the land of topic.

grahamb wrote:
The scandal isn't about how Germans measure diesel emissions; it's about a German company manipulating emissions tests.
Blaming a whole nation for the misdeeds of one company is rather harsh.


No. It’s about mindset. I have a good idea how much resource is involved for such a project. It’s not one software geek at his desk; it’s several hundred people. All of them knew what they were doing was wrong, but not one spoke up.

My second example, the decade-late Berlin airport, also involved several hundred people.

A few thousand people with heads in sand, or someplace else, isn’t being harsh.

I hope you have a VW diesel car, now that’s me being harsh.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2015 9:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Knedliki wrote:
If someone can live in a country for eight years and not make one friend they need to take a look in the mirror to see where the problem is.


By the way, welcome to the forum.

Pardon me if I don't respond to your future inputs, but I'm sure they'll be well received.
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