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nigel2
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wangdaning
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This is obviously a fake story. I read on here that if a foreign person attacks a Chinese all the Chinese will gang up on them. This 60 year old man is insane getting out of the car with the broom to confront a clearly mental person. Call the police and wait, especially if you are not prepared on educated on how to use the broom.
I know honking can make people crazy, but this guy is over the top. |
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hdeth
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| wangdaning wrote: |
| I read on here that if a foreign person attacks a Chinese all the Chinese will gang up on them. |
The one fight involving a foreigner I heard of (from a reliable witness) was on the bar street in Huangdao, Qingdao. Two guys went at it (I think one of them a foreigner), even throwing around furniture. Someone called the police. Six officers came in a van, saw what was going on, moved a few blocks over and watched what happened.
It's hard for me to imagine Chinese people ganging up on a foreigner. I've never seen or heard anything like that.
Chinese guys seem to be all talk....probably the most violence-averse people I have ever met. I'm not sure I've ever met a Chinese person who I could see having a real fight with someone. Maybe as a joke or some pushing match or something, but a real fight? Just can't really see it. We watched a gangster movie in one high school class and the girls liked it but the guys thought it was too violent.
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Aside from the fact that it would be a unique enough thing to see I bet they'd all be busy taping it with their phone. |
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Markness
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| We've all had one of those days! Maybe he just thought the guy driving was a giant rat, hence the broom. But seriously, I had a moment where I lost it before too on some dumb hillbilly on an ebike. There was no one around and a giant open space/area all around and he kept coming up on my arse and honking his horn. I turned around and had the back-hand pose going on (as a reflex), and he sped off. |
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Babala
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Before I got my motorbike I used to get really angry with people honking away but I now look at it in a new way. The amount of kids at my uni who walk in the middle of the road in a line blocking the whole road so no car or bike can pass is maddening. They ignore all honking too. I usually have to scream at them to move it (there are sidewalks, they just refuse to use them).
Didn't look like that crazy guy was on a sidewalk either  We all get angry from time to time but that guy is clearly a nutter. |
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litterascriptor
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There was a Russian student who got jumped in a bar by a young Chinese fellow, he proceeded to clean up the floor with the young rascals and ended up on video. The Chinese fellow went to the police but was told that he started a fight and not even his 8 friends could end it for him.
Was quite the hilarious event, the Russian guy later got denied a student visa and legged it back to Russia. Something tells me he's wrestling bears or smashing bricks with his forehead in a carnival for a living. |
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RiverMystic
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| Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2015 3:29 pm Post subject: |
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| hdeth wrote: |
| wangdaning wrote: |
| I read on here that if a foreign person attacks a Chinese all the Chinese will gang up on them. |
The one fight involving a foreigner I heard of (from a reliable witness) was on the bar street in Huangdao, Qingdao. Two guys went at it (I think one of them a foreigner), even throwing around furniture. Someone called the police. Six officers came in a van, saw what was going on, moved a few blocks over and watched what happened.
It's hard for me to imagine Chinese people ganging up on a foreigner. I've never seen or heard anything like that. |
I find that hard to believe. I have heard the same scenario so many times, including posts here on Dave's. One of my best friends was assaulted in just this way in Shanghai, a minor altercation where suddenly twenty Chinese guys joined in, and he got hammered. He was saved by the police, ultimately. |
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Aristede
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| RiverMystic wrote: |
| hdeth wrote: |
| wangdaning wrote: |
| I read on here that if a foreign person attacks a Chinese all the Chinese will gang up on them. |
The one fight involving a foreigner I heard of (from a reliable witness) was on the bar street in Huangdao, Qingdao. Two guys went at it (I think one of them a foreigner), even throwing around furniture. Someone called the police. Six officers came in a van, saw what was going on, moved a few blocks over and watched what happened.
It's hard for me to imagine Chinese people ganging up on a foreigner. I've never seen or heard anything like that. |
I find that hard to believe. I have heard the same scenario so many times, including posts here on Dave's. One of my best friends was assaulted in just this way in Shanghai, a minor altercation where suddenly twenty Chinese guys joined in, and he got hammered. He was saved by the police, ultimately. |
Unless the mob of people are friends or "associates" of the Chinese person involved in the altercation, based on everything I've seen & heard in China, I agree with hdeth's perspective. Chinese tend to avoid direct confrontation like the plague. And despite widespread xenophobia, there is no sense of solidarity in the country that would motivate strangers to join in a melee just because one combatant is a foreigner. In someplace like Thailand, different story. But not China. |
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asiannationmc
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| He was saved by the police, ultimately. |
Now that is hard to believe. |
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Markness
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| Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2015 5:39 am Post subject: |
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| Babala wrote: |
Before I got my motorbike I used to get really angry with people honking away but I now look at it in a new way. The amount of kids at my uni who walk in the middle of the road in a line blocking the whole road so no car or bike can pass is maddening. They ignore all honking too. I usually have to scream at them to move it (there are sidewalks, they just refuse to use them).
Didn't look like that crazy guy was on a sidewalk either We all get angry from time to time but that guy is clearly a nutter. |
Haha, of course (responding to the first paragraph), the Chinese have a 1-meter radius of where they pay attention, which would also be extremely frustrating if you are driving. I have people constantly walking into me/bashing me with their umbrellas because they can't pay attention to their surroundings. Don't get me started on when they stop all of sudden and respond to a text message and just carry on. The most annoying is trying to get out of an exit of an apartment complex/subway station exit and people just block it in a plethora of ways. /rantcomplete
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asiannationmc
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| Before I got my motorbike I used to get really angry with people honking away but I now look at it in a new way. |
I use mine round bout every 7 seconds....the Marvelli brothers would be proud...to insure the Jackals know that today is my day... |
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wangdaning
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With the quality of sidewalks here it is not surprising that people walk in the road. Most of the time out with my baby there is no choice but to walk on the road because the sidewalk is unusable.
Also, and not accusing the two posters here, but you know those incessant honkers are the same ones who walk in the road when out of their cars.
This guy obviously has some issues. Even someone honking is no excuse to attack them. |
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OhBudPowellWhereArtThou
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| Markness wrote: |
Haha, of course (responding to the first paragraph), the Chinese have a 1-meter radius of where they pay attention, which would also be extremely frustrating if you are driving. I have people constantly walking into me/bashing me with their umbrellas because they can't pay attention to their surroundings. Don't get me started on when they stop all of sudden and respond to a text message and just carry on. The most annoying is trying to get out of an exit of an apartment complex/subway station exit and people just block it in a plethora of ways. /rantcomplete
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I'd say that this is an unnecessarily critical and cruel statement, but it is largely true. I don't think it's because they can't pay attention to their surroundings. It is a result of conditioning. In many of the cities I've visited, the sidewalks often drop precipitously, guide wires from telephone poles span across the sidewalk. Walking in the city is hazardous. When is there not a crowd? Why look farther than three feet ahead? There's just another hundred+ people ahead of the person in fron to you.
I agree about traffic too. The driving problem, I think that (in the tier 2 and 3 and even smaller) cities a lot of people still have a bicycle mentality. That's why you see people trying to drive a wide Buick down a narrow alley, only to be astounded that their side mirrors got sheared off. I think that this accounts for those who drive against traffic.
When you get into texting territory, you're in real conditioning territory, and this is where I agree with Markness. So many Chinese (and too many Americans) really can't stop playing with their phones. They are enslaved to their expensive toys. Apps like facebook reinforce the zombie-like behavior. People are rewarded for their inattention to their surroundings and their attention to their toys by getting "likes". If ever there was social engineering, it exists as facebook.
Re: incessant honking. I think a lot of people in China (young and old) are deaf. I've been in taxis when the driver is really putting it out, and old geezers don't become aware of it until the cab is ten feet away. Then again, the behavior could be explained by overexposure to the noise. When I take a long trip on a bus, inevitably, my seat is right behind the driver. I no longer hear the honking. I go to sleep as soon as the bus pulls out of the station. |
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RiverMystic
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| Aristede wrote: |
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| hdeth wrote: |
| wangdaning wrote: |
| I read on here that if a foreign person attacks a Chinese all the Chinese will gang up on them. |
The one fight involving a foreigner I heard of (from a reliable witness) was on the bar street in Huangdao, Qingdao. Two guys went at it (I think one of them a foreigner), even throwing around furniture. Someone called the police. Six officers came in a van, saw what was going on, moved a few blocks over and watched what happened.
It's hard for me to imagine Chinese people ganging up on a foreigner. I've never seen or heard anything like that. |
I find that hard to believe. I have heard the same scenario so many times, including posts here on Dave's. One of my best friends was assaulted in just this way in Shanghai, a minor altercation where suddenly twenty Chinese guys joined in, and he got hammered. He was saved by the police, ultimately. |
Unless the mob of people are friends or "associates" of the Chinese person involved in the altercation, based on everything I've seen & heard in China, I agree with hdeth's perspective. Chinese tend to avoid direct confrontation like the plague. And despite widespread xenophobia, there is no sense of solidarity in the country that would motivate strangers to join in a melee just because one combatant is a foreigner. In someplace like Thailand, different story. But not China. |
Sure, all these people are just telling lies. Nothing to see here.
No gun problem in the US either. I went there twice and didn't see any guns or get shot at. It's all BS. |
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Aristede
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| Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2015 6:00 pm Post subject: |
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| RiverMystic wrote: |
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Unless the mob of people are friends or "associates" of the Chinese person involved in the altercation, based on everything I've seen & heard in China, I agree with hdeth's perspective. Chinese tend to avoid direct confrontation like the plague. And despite widespread xenophobia, there is no sense of solidarity in the country that would motivate strangers to join in a melee just because one combatant is a foreigner. In someplace like Thailand, different story. But not China. |
Sure, all these people are just telling lies. Nothing to see here.
No gun problem in the US either. I went there twice and didn't see any guns or get shot at. It's all BS. |
"All these people." Who are the faceless entities in these apocryphal accounts anyway? Hey, a guy at a bar told me about his friend who knows six people who were beaten up by gangs of angry Chinese for being white in public. Therefore, Chinese people are all hot-tempered and roam the streets in packs looking for foreigners to attack. Wow, I can build a straw man too!
I made my statements based on two years of living in China in three different areas, including the "wild west" of Xinjiang. I never felt in serious physical danger in any of those places, even roaming around at night. I got into angry verbal exchanges from time to time over things like queue-cutting, but nobody ever attacked me, and nobody ever joined the dispute to support his fellow Chinese against me. No westerner I've ever personally known in China has ever told me a story of experiencing a "pack attack" either.
Has it ever happened to anyone? Does it ever happen? In a country the size of China, I'm sure it has, but that doesn't make it any more of a common occurrence than getting punched out in the USA in an argument over Nutella waffles. At the end of the day, people are going to believe what they wish to. So by all means, adhere to the yellow horde theory if it makes you happy. |
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