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faranjo
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Hello people,
I'm currently in Korea where I have taught ESL in a public school for the last 6 years. I'm going back to South Africa in February to complete my teachers training to complete my PGCE.
My teachers training will last 10 weeks and I hope to be done by June. At this point I would have completed all modules to would be registered as a teacher with the South African Education board. However, I don't know by when I will get the actual degree.
The plan is to get a get a job at an international school, anywhere in the ME really, as soon as possible.
What are my chances taking into account that I will only have my Korean teaching experience but no copy of my degree yet?
Any help or tips are much appreciated.
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nomad soul
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| The majority of posters on this forum don't teach in international schools, which is why I mentioned International Schools Review on one of your other threads. But again, you'd need to have your docs in hand for visa processing, although some mediocre school might take you on. |
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CANDLES
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"MEDIOCRE SCHOOL"
Being positive as usual NS???? |
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currentaffairs
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| Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2016 1:06 pm Post subject: |
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Your chances are probably dependent on the reputation, pickiness and needs of the school. The better schools may want some years of experience in your home country. They may want you to get QTS. However, for example, a school in the Sabis network might not be so selective. They are heavily involved in education in the Middle East:
http://www.sabis.net
You can read quite a lot about them on here if you search. Some reviews are not particularly positive but it will give you an idea of what is available. A number of so-called international schools are really diploma mills and not great places to work. It can also very much depend on the local management so ask some good, probing questions during your interviews! |
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veiledsentiments
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| CANDLES wrote: |
"MEDIOCRE SCHOOL"
Being positive as usual NS???? |
Entry level people are lucky to get a mediocre school... LOL
I would call her realistic. Too many people lead the newbies on. The better schools normally want to see a few years of experience in their home country after certification.
Or you can go below mediocre and pick Sabis... 
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CANDLES
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Oh, I don't know! Plenty of entry levels at PNU and KSU and others and they're just doing fine.
Depends on ability and own resourcefulness, really. In the end, all the jobs end up the same. Mediocre! |
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RustyShackleford
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| CANDLES wrote: |
| In the end, all the jobs end up the same. Mediocre! |
Oh, how many have wished to enter the gates of Valhalla, shiny and chrome? |
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CANDLES
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| Not jaded either please......[b] Life's too short! |
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nomad soul
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| Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2016 6:28 pm Post subject: |
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| veiledsentiments wrote: |
| CANDLES wrote: |
"MEDIOCRE SCHOOL"
Being positive as usual NS???? |
Entry level people are lucky to get a mediocre school... LOL
I would call her realistic. Too many people lead the newbies on. The better schools normally want to see a few years of experience in their home country after certification.
Or you can go below mediocre and pick Sabis... |
Ditto that, VS, especially the part about first gaining k-12 teaching experience in one's home country. The OP will find this blurb about International Schools in Saudi Arabia somewhat useful. She/he needs to be aware that international schools in SK aren't the same as schools in religiously-conservative KSA. Plus, it's unclear what subject the OP expects to teach and to whom: nationals or the children of English-speaking expats. Big difference there as well.
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Plenty of entry levels at PNU and KSU and others and they're just doing fine.
Depends on ability and own resourcefulness, really. In the end, all the jobs end up the same. Mediocre! |
That wasn't my experience at the uni I taught at. Anyway, this isn't even about university PY programs. I used "mediocre" specific to the OP's situation as someone who will be able to verify completion of relevant studies but won't yet have the physical PGCE in hand for visa purposes to show that she/he is qualified to teach in a British or IB-curriculum international school. |
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RedLightning
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Perhaps you can submit documentation of your en route status, or else copies of your exam scores-it's not unheard of for these to suffice.
As far as Sabis is concerned, it's a glass half full or empty sort of deal. |
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nomad soul
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| RedLightning wrote: |
| Perhaps you can submit documentation of your en route status, or else copies of your exam scores-it's not unheard of for these to suffice. |
Photocopies of qualifying diplomas and teaching licenses/certificates are stamped by the Saudi Cultural Mission during the employment visa application process. The OP can contact the Saudi Embassy in South Africa with his/her visa concerns.
As for SABIS, no properly-qualified teacher would want to work for them, just like an MA TESOL holder wouldn't want to touch Berlitz. |
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scot47
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| There were persistent stories a while back that Riyadh and Pretoria had agreed that no more teachers should be recruited from South Africa to work in KSA. The narrative was that Zuma and his pals had decided that South Africa needs its teachers and that they cannot be allowed to emigrate. |
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