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Landon
Joined: 26 Sep 2011 Posts: 90
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Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2015 6:34 pm Post subject: Part-time EFLer |
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Is there anybody that does this part-time? Im talking about the whole experience... Someone that teaches EFL for a period of time during the year in a location and then returns to their home country for a time? Is that a thing?? Similar to mini-retirements versus semi-retirements.
There has got to be multiple ways of going about this and tons of ups and downsides. I just wondered if there was anybody that was doing it; someone keeping a home and furnishings and contacts back home and living a few months or a year and teaching and then coming home for a while and doing it all over again. |
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spiral78

Joined: 05 Apr 2004 Posts: 11534 Location: On a Short Leash
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Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2015 7:19 pm Post subject: |
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The main problem is that not too many employers want to jump through the working visa and other legality hoops for someone who's not committed to a regular contract (usually 10-12 months).
If you commit to a year, then of course you are free to return home for a while and then to do it all again - but you are doomed to entry -level stuff. It takes a couple of years in a location, usually, to work your way up to the better gigs, schedules, and pay scales. |
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santi84
Joined: 14 Mar 2008 Posts: 1317 Location: under da sea
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Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2015 7:42 pm Post subject: |
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My uncle does this. He has a PhD in TESOL though, and a very nice gig that allows it. |
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Xie Lin

Joined: 21 Oct 2011 Posts: 731
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Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2015 7:51 pm Post subject: |
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Unless you have another source of income, I can't see the financial side of this working. TEFL salaries, especially at entry level, often pay not much more than the cost of living in the country where you are working (with some notable exceptions, but these don't offer many short-term gigs.) If you are talking about maintaining a household full-time in your home country, I don't see paying for it while working short-term TEFL jobs abroad without independent income or substantial savings. Perhaps in conjunction with reliable on-line work?
This would seem more feasible later on, say mid career, or at least after solid experience, advanced qualifications, and a reputation are established.
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Landon
Joined: 26 Sep 2011 Posts: 90
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Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2015 11:21 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks. Im not really interested in EFL as a long term career or even fooling myself that its a money making venture, since I am not an in demand PhD EFL professor with a world class tenure. The part of the world I am interested in wouldn't even pay that type of person very much anyway.
It is more of a novelty type experience for me; something to do and earn a local type living while getting away from it all, experiencing a new culture, learning a language, etc. And then regrouping and starting it over again. A few bucks would be nice too.
Just wondered it there were others that looked at it that way...Live and work a year at home, and live and work a year abroad...something like that...As they call "mini retirements" or "mini vacations". |
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schwa
Joined: 12 Oct 2003 Posts: 164 Location: yap
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Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2015 12:23 am Post subject: |
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I'd think assembling visa docs every other year would be a big hassle, not to mention just getting your foot in the door over & over could lead to a succession of bum jobs & a pretty sore foot.
But who knows. Your life is yours to create. |
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spiral78

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Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2015 2:33 pm Post subject: |
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It is more of a novelty type experience for me; something to do and earn a local type living while getting away from it all, experiencing a new culture, learning a language, etc. |
Sorry to be negative, but a first year in a new country is not a 'mini holiday or retirement' equivalent by any means!
EFL teachers don't mostly earn a local type living in the first year - especially if you are thinking of Central/Eastern Europe. You'll pay more than locals do for housing (probably significantly more) and most locals live in two income homes.
You don't get away from it all; you've still got to deal with landladies, banks, post offices, service account providers, shopkeepers - and all at a far higher level of difficulty when you can't speak the language. Not to mention visa details (foreign police offices, embassies, etc.)
You've got to plan lessons, slog to work, deal with students and employers you may not like or understand well. A year is just enough time for most people to finally get things working properly, to be honest.
Experiencing a culture in one year is a fairly surface experience; it's not that common (again, Central/Eastern Europe) to make many friends among the locals in just one year - they've got established lives, they've all seen millions of EFL teachers come and go, and they're largely not that interested in transients. The built-in cache of being a native English speaker wore off years ago. The first year, most people's social circles are mainly stocked with fellow expats.
Learning languages is very difficult when trying to get established somewhere and to do a decent job of teaching.
I'm not saying that there isn't some value in the process, but it's not likely as easy or as rewarding as you imagine. Come try it out; that's the only way you can know if this will work for you.
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scot47

Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Posts: 15343
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Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2015 2:57 pm Post subject: |
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Visa and work permit hassles make this unrealistic.
Try two years with the Peace Corps ? But they expect some sort of commitment. In return they do give opportunites to learn a language.
Looks good on that CV too. |
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Landon
Joined: 26 Sep 2011 Posts: 90
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Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2015 6:43 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks. I have looked into the Peace Corps over the years. That is very meager earnings and tough schedules. And the living conditions seem pretty rough. Bathing in a pond with no electricity is not really the type of experience I am looking for (many assignments are like that).
Latin America is what I am looking at, not Europe. My wife and I already communicate with each other completely in Spanish, and we also speak conversational Portuguese, so the language part is not a problem for us anywhere south of the border. Learning the language in other places in the world could be a nightmare, Im sure.
I wasnt thinking that the visa process would be so difficult. I will have to look into that more. I know that Ecuador just wants to see that you have some money saved and that you have a college degree to get a Professional Visa.
Thanks for the responses. |
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spiral78

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Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2015 7:06 pm Post subject: |
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Suggest you post in the General Latin America forum below; there will be more posters there with relevant information. |
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HLJHLJ
Joined: 06 Oct 2009 Posts: 1218 Location: Ecuador
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Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2015 2:30 am Post subject: |
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Landon wrote: |
I know that Ecuador just wants to see that you have some money saved and that you have a college degree to get a Professional Visa.
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I think you are confusing 2 different visas. You can get a 180 day visa with money saved. You could get work somewhere like EF during that time, and you could probably do that every year if you wanted to. But by the time you've paid out ~$250 ish for the visa and flights out, plus paying extra for a short term let, and being on language institute wages, you'll be lucky to break even.
The professional visa is a resident visa. Yes a degree is the basic requirement, but there is other paperwork involved. Even if you do it yourself you are looking at about $500, and you are only allowed to be out of the country for 90 days per year in the first couple of years, or your visa will be cancelled. You could probably get away with reapplying once or maybe twice, but you couldn't keep doing that, they would refuse the visa. Plus, you will still be stuck with language school work if you aren't going to be here for a full year. |
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