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AnzaExo
Joined: 16 Oct 2015 Posts: 11
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Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2015 8:32 pm Post subject: The right and wrong reasons for getting into the ESL field? |
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For the people who have been teaching esl overseas for some years, what do you feel are the right/wrong reasons to get into this field? |
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spiral78

Joined: 05 Apr 2004 Posts: 11534 Location: On a Short Leash
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Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2015 9:08 pm Post subject: |
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In no particular order!
Wrong:
You can't find a suitable girl/boyfriend at home and you think you'll be a hot property abroad.
You want to prolong your university binge drinking days into your middle age.
You think that the locals are going to find you cool and interesting just because you're American/British/other.
You want to improve the world by teaching people in second/third tier countries about the culture of your home country.
You want to save the world.
You want to teach people how to think critically.
You are sure that being a native speaker is sufficient to be a good teacher.
You treat the job as secondary to your own cool experience of living abroad.
Right:
You have a genuine interest in learning languages yourself.
You have a high tolerance for the unknown and for ambiguous situations.
You are patient with rules and regulations you don't understand or necessarily see a need for.
You have some real interest in listening to other people's stories and you care about doing what you can to support their success.
You don't need to be constantly surrounded by BFFs; you genuinely enjoy exploring and being on your own often.
You have the financial and personal resources to get yourself set up and even out of a country to home.
You see teaching as a possible career - you are at least willing to get initial training and to entertain the thought of further qualifications if you decide to stay in the profession longer term.
You treat the job as a priority on a daily basis. |
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Landon
Joined: 26 Sep 2011 Posts: 90
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Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2015 9:49 pm Post subject: |
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I guess I did a lot in your Wrong column. I taught English in Peru right after college because I didn't want to get a job yet. There was no way I was ready for a career. The locals did seem to love my American stories and my height and my blue eyes. Outside of town the kids would run out of their houses and point at me and chase me down the street.
I dropped my previous girlfriend from home because of this trip. Then I met my wife there while teaching EFL. We have been married going on 11 years.
Spanish was the best language for us to communicate when I first met her, and we still communicate only in Spanish to this day, although she has a Master's degree in Education from an American State University.
At the time teaching was most definitely secondary to my adventure of living abroad. Teaching EFL was just something to be able to say to friends and family when they asked what in the world I was doing. It was a great experience. So much so, that we are now preparing to go back. |
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spiral78

Joined: 05 Apr 2004 Posts: 11534 Location: On a Short Leash
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Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2015 10:13 pm Post subject: |
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I guess I did a lot in your Wrong column. I taught English in Peru right after college because I didn't want to get a job yet. There was no way I was ready for a career. The locals did seem to love my American stories and my height and my blue eyes. Outside of town the kids would run out of their houses and point at me and chase me down the street. |
Times have changed....it used to be easier, more fun, and cooler overall most places.
Still, you should check in on the Latin American boards. Lots of the regulars there never come this far north on the forum and the climate there may be different than my European experience, at least to some degree. |
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fluffyhamster
Joined: 13 Mar 2005 Posts: 3292 Location: UK > China > Japan > UK again
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Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2015 10:45 pm Post subject: |
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Perhaps the main "wrong" reason expressed on these forums goes something like this: 'Don't enter TEFL* simply for lack of immediate prospects or putting things off, as there are few prospects in it. I intend to be done with this whole malarkey ASAP, and thus become the brain surgeon or whatever I should've become before being so pointlessly distracted from the right, preordained path in my life'.
Whenever I read such comments, I think a) who are they trying to kid (and often they end up moving sideways rather than upwards, becoming struggling translators say), b) there's actually plenty to occupy one's mind if not one's accountant even in those TEFL jobs that apparently "suck", and there is in fact a career path of sorts to it, and c) even brain surgeons are apparently overpaid these days (if we are to believe the architects of austerity yadda yadda. Suck it up back home? I think not!).
The only reasons I can think of then for really NOT giving TEFLing a try are if you're pathologically shy or awkward or socially challenged, or have such a dim view of foreign countries that you'd hate living in them. And about the strongest reason FOR giving it a definite try is if you're wanted for federal crimes and are on the run from homeland authorities.
*Teaching English as a Foreign Language. ES(O)L is more teaching immigrants in your home country, or those overseas countries where English is genuinely more a second rather than foreign language, and which therefore tend to have a high-enough functioning general level that they don't need that much native-speaker input educationally or otherwise (or they'll expect you to be more than minimally-qualified for whatever fewer openings are available in them).
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In the heat of the moment

Joined: 22 May 2015 Posts: 393 Location: Italy
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Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2015 6:27 am Post subject: |
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Right Reasons:
You enjoy teaching
You enjoy experiencing other cultures
You want to live in and experience another country, warts and all, rather than just visit for a holiday
You want to experience those cultures before they lose any signs of individuality and are diluted/masked by globalisation and other (mostly US) cultures
Wrong Reasons:
You don't know what you want to do with your life
You think it's a way to travel and you'll just chat with the locals
Your mate, Dave, told you it's a great way to have an extended holiday, sh*g loads of exotic men/women and drink as often as you want
You think you can change anything at all by teaching English |
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scot47

Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Posts: 15343
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Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2015 4:22 pm Post subject: |
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I failed in life and needed a job. And then spent most of the following 40 years teaching in weird, wonderful and whacky places. |
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Hod
Joined: 28 Apr 2003 Posts: 1613 Location: Home
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Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2015 4:51 pm Post subject: |
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spiral78 wrote: |
Right:
You are patient with rules and regulations you don't understand or necessarily see a need for.
You don't need to be constantly surrounded by BFFs; you genuinely enjoy exploring and being on your own often.
You treat the job as a priority on a daily basis. |
Sorry, is this the monks’ forum?
I’m sure teachers can be good even if they have friends, family or even hobbies.
The most miserable person I ever met was a British Council Teaching Centre Manager in Morocco. His wish list had about seven countries. Morocco wasn’t one of them. He couldn’t speak a word of the language nor had any desire to learn. But he only had to do four years before the next country, also not on his wish list.
There’s nothing wrong at all in teaching abroad if you like beaches, sun, women, etc, if you still do your job. That guy in Morocco was rubbish at his job partly because he didn’t belong there. |
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spiral78

Joined: 05 Apr 2004 Posts: 11534 Location: On a Short Leash
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Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2015 5:19 pm Post subject: |
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You don't need to be constantly surrounded by BFFs; you genuinely enjoy exploring and being on your own often. |
Hod, you must have missed the qualifier 'constantly.'
My point was that it usually takes some time to establish a social network in a new country.
People who are used to being herd animals on a daily basis and who are therefore not necessarily very discriminating in making new friends in a new country are unfortunately often open to people who take advantage of them. This is much more likely in a new country, particularly if one doesn't speak the language or understand the customs. Falling in with the 'wrong' friends can be just a blip, or it can sometimes put people in really dangerous situations.
It's advisable to be at least fairly comfortable on your own in a new place and to take your time to make friends. |
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buravirgil
Joined: 23 Jan 2014 Posts: 967 Location: Jiangxi Province, China
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Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2015 5:42 pm Post subject: |
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Dave's ESL Cafe: A weird, wonderful and whacky place. |
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Hod
Joined: 28 Apr 2003 Posts: 1613 Location: Home
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Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2015 9:23 pm Post subject: |
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spiral78 wrote: |
My point was that it usually takes some time to establish a social network in a new country. |
That's true.
Well, is it? I've worked overseas as a TEFLer and also as an office saddo. One thing I really liked about TEFL is you get "ready-made" friends, people often of similar ages and interests who've not lived in the country for decades and so are still open to meeting newcomers.
Office saddos, with their screaming kids, TV dinners and golf cliques (nothing wrong with golf), are far too "busy" to hang out with a newbie.
OK, after a few weeks, not all of these "friends" will be people you want to spend time with, but there will always be one or two who you bond with, and you'll meet their friends and so on.
Edit: So is "making friends" a right or wrong reason for TEFLing? |
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AnzaExo
Joined: 16 Oct 2015 Posts: 11
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Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2015 9:41 pm Post subject: |
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Some good points here guys! Thanks for the replies so far.
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In the heat of the moment

Joined: 22 May 2015 Posts: 393 Location: Italy
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Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2015 9:41 pm Post subject: |
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scot47 wrote: |
I failed in life and needed a job. And then spent most of the following 40 years teaching in weird, wonderful and whacky places. |
That's all well and good, granddad, but I think the point of this thread is to give present, potential TEFLers some help and not a history lesson in 17th Century migration. |
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johnslat

Joined: 21 Jan 2003 Posts: 13859 Location: Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
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Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2015 9:42 pm Post subject: |
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Depends on your personality/character, I'd say. Also depends on just how much you feel the need to hang with people.
For many, TEFLing means making "short-term" friends, again and again.
But that has exceptions. I'm still friends with colleagues from decades ago. And not just though e-mail. There have been visits, back and forth.
Regards,
John |
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AnzaExo
Joined: 16 Oct 2015 Posts: 11
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Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2015 9:53 pm Post subject: |
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johnslat wrote: |
Depends on your personality/character, I'd say. Also depends on just how much you feel the need to hang with people.
For many, TEFLing means making "short-term" friends, again and again.
But that has exceptions. I'm still friends with colleagues from decades ago. And not just though e-mail. There have been visits, back and forth.
Regards,
John |
I have a really independent personality so I don't think that will be a a problem I also really want to experience living in a new country and this seems like the best way to do so.
I've pretty much determined this is the path for me right now. I'm currently saving up for the CELTA and am starting to learn the local language. Hopefully within six months I can make the move! |
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