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Japan, Westgate, other options for a well qualified teacher

 
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T-Bomb



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 07, 2015 12:06 am    Post subject: Japan, Westgate, other options for a well qualified teacher Reply with quote

Hi Im currently going through the Westgate interview process- I'm at the 3 stage awaiting on an offer by email..I know it takes a while, but I really like the way it is set up as Im a Japan-noob though Ive taught elsewhere. So my question is are there any other options for teaching in Japan with the same soft landing that Westgate offers. I really want to go with them but obviously I cant leave all my eggs in one bask|et. I have a Masters in Communication, Bachelors in Communication, TESOL cert and over 1500 hours of teaching ESL, so Im kinda confident I will fit the Westgate criteria; but if anyone has any inside info or knows of anyone reputable that is hiring please let me know. Thanks in advance for your wealth of knowledge Wink
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currentaffairs



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 07, 2015 8:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think Westgate is an okay way in.. The other main recruiters are the chain schools like Aeon, Geos, what is left of Nova, and Berlitz.

There is the Jet program as well..
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Rooster.



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 07, 2015 6:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

currentaffairs wrote:
I think Westgate is an okay way in.. The other main recruiters are the chain schools like Aeon, Geos, what is left of Nova, and Berlitz.

There is the Jet program as well..


I thought Nova bought out Geos. And Nova is quit alive.
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Nemu_Yoake



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 08, 2015 6:34 am    Post subject: Re: Japan, Westgate, other options for a well qualified teac Reply with quote

T-Bomb wrote:
Hi Im currently going through the Westgate interview process- I'm at the 3 stage awaiting on an offer by email..I know it takes a while, but I really like the way it is set up as Im a Japan-noob though Ive taught elsewhere. So my question is are there any other options for teaching in Japan with the same soft landing that Westgate offers. I really want to go with them but obviously I cant leave all my eggs in one bask|et. I have a Masters in Communication, Bachelors in Communication, TESOL cert and over 1500 hours of teaching ESL, so Im kinda confident I will fit the Westgate criteria; but if anyone has any inside info or knows of anyone reputable that is hiring please let me know. Thanks in advance for your wealth of knowledge Wink


Do you want to teach in Japan for the long haul, or just for some years?
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T-Bomb



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 10, 2015 4:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ideally I would like to secure a long term agreement. I know Westgate is the obvious "foot in the door" agency as a means of getting into Japan for a quick-fire seasonal run, but being a Japan noob and having only been approached initially by Westgate I can see the danger of putting all my eggs in one basket especially as they take a lifetime to reply or update application progress. I'm not picky regarding student age; I have taught from 0-18 years in a kindergarten and Foreign Language Boarding School environment. I would like to think there are options other than a single agency, and of course I'm yet to know if the Westgate app has been successful.. I would be happy to converse with a foreign teacher in Japan with a view to securing a direct mode of hiring or possibly replacing them if applicable.
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Nemu_Yoake



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 10, 2015 7:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it'll be very difficult for you to be directly hired if you know nobody in Japan...
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T-Bomb



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 10, 2015 7:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ummm... yeah....hence this thread.
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TokyoLiz



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2015 9:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Direct hire jobs aren't available until you're already carrying a visa and have a handle on the language and culture.
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T-Bomb



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 12, 2015 6:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TokyoLiz wrote:
Direct hire jobs aren't available until you're already carrying a visa and have a handle on the language and culture.


Yeah that's what I figured; having already taught in the China labyrinth it's obvious that recruiters are significantly less. No surprises there, the days of nailing a job with an afternoon of Skyping are over sniff**
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Sydney



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2015 1:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have worked for JET, Westgate and Interac. JET is by far the best, there is no question. In my experience, and this was more than seven years ago, the Westgate people will tell you ANYTHING they think you want to hear, but they will later deny what they promised you. Their promises have no meaning at all. Interac is year-by-year lowering the wages and vacation time and increasing work hours. Avoid Westgate and Interac if at all possible.
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mitsui



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 23, 2015 7:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

With Westgate you must wear a suit, could live in their apartment,
and you can have a bad commute. I think the contracts are short.
Depending on what you want it could be a start.
Some people do like working for them.

I knew a teacher who worked for them. Later he worked at a junior high
and got sick of it and left Japan at the end of his contract.
So for him, Westgate was better. I think he had university students.
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GambateBingBangBOOM



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 29, 2015 8:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mitsui wrote:
With Westgate you must wear a suit,


Rolling Eyes

You must wear a suit for MOST English teaching jobs. Some universities don't push it, but some do (depends on the teaching area of the university, I guess. Mine requires it), every single direct hire jr/sr high school job I've done or even heard of required it. So did all of the dispatched jr/sr high jobs. Eikaiwa mostly require it (some don't, I guess if it's a mom and pop shop). So do most (but not all) of the juku I've seen.

Really, the only non-suit-mandatory job I've ever had in Japan was JET.
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mitsui



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 29, 2015 8:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Every day you have to wear it at Westgate.
Most places don't care but sometimes it is needed.

Even now at my present job a suit is needed rarely.
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mitsui



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 29, 2015 10:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

At Berlitz teachers have to dress up.
At university I would wear a suit a few times a year.
At high school I don't even wear a tie, except on certain days.
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