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ndahlhoff10



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 06, 2015 5:53 am    Post subject: Medical Check in USA for visa Reply with quote

I need to get a medical exam done in the USA for the visa process and am confused about some things. I found this form online http://www.china-embassy.org/eng/visas/fd/W020110807201675371788.pdf. I'm not really sure where to go to get this done. I'm not even sure the doctor or nurse would know how to answer some of the questions. Nourishment? Color Sense?

Anybody able to help me understand how to get this done?
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eihpos



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 06, 2015 8:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any doctor will be able to answer those questions. Don't worry. I just had one done (for the 5th or 6th time) by my local GP. Nourishment - they will know by looking at you. My doc just put normal. She asked me if I had any difficulty distinguishing blue from green for colour sense. She did a quick eye test, checked my neck, back, felt my stomach and weighed me. Oh and had a look in my ears and mouth. She put normal for the chest xray on the basis of one I had a couple of years ago. That's it. The most important part are the blood tests, I think. It's a pain because they put you through the whole thing again when you get to China too.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 06, 2015 11:06 am    Post subject: Re: Medical Check in USA for visa Reply with quote

ndahlhoff10 wrote:
I need to get a medical exam done in the USA for the visa process and am confused about some things. I found this form online http://www.china-embassy.org/eng/visas/fd/W020110807201675371788.pdf. I'm not really sure where to go to get this done. I'm not even sure the doctor or nurse would know how to answer some of the questions. Nourishment? Color Sense?

Anybody able to help me understand how to get this done?

Hi Op,
The schools that hired me always sent me the form that they wanted filled out by email. I would then bring that to the Doctor. Many of the questions are strange and your doctor will look at them funny, but explain that it is for a job in China. My work around for the medical exam is to go to the clinic at a university. I go to the one where I got my M.A. They usually charge me about $30 and can do everything except the chest ex-ray and ECG. Those I do at a private place and it costs me another $65. I don't think it actually matters where you get them done because you will redo them almost immediately upon arrival.
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Hermosillo



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 07, 2015 9:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Google "Travel Medical" and you will find a doc, who will sign off on everything. I paid 55 for the one for a Thailand Visa...guaranteed to work. He took shortcuts.....but used common sense...like the question about elephantisis...he said he had seen one case in his lifetime and that was in Africa. Otherwise, the big name health providers will make you get a complete physical and that could cost 3-500 usd. I was going to start with the TB test, and the local county health clinic does them for 15 usd..but they won't sign anyone else's paper, they just give you a certificate. Travel Medical didn't even do the test...I told him I had one a few years before for a teaching job. Also, they have to sign off that you are in good mental and physical condition...so the more regular docs will refuse to do this, as it would open them to a lawsuit. The Travel Medical people are going to be near the embassies....you won't be the first...
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jimpellow



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 07, 2015 10:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Has this changed? I never had to go through this, but I have heard enough people complaining on boards the last couple years that the medical had to be done through a hospital "approved" by the Chinese embassy in the applicant's country. Some have also said that the medical needed to be "certified" by government authorities before submission.

The whole thing is inane as I have written before. In April 2014, Beijing directed that the pre medical was now only needed in cases where there were legitimate concerns about the applicant's health.
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JamesD



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 08, 2015 12:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did anyone ever stop to wonder how a Chinese employer would check up on a doctor in the US (Canada, UK,...)? I mean if you're basically healthy and know you don't have dengue fever/ague/elephantisis how would they know whether the form was filled out by Michael DeBakey or Dr. Joe Shmo?
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OhBudPowellWhereArtThou



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 08, 2015 4:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jimpellow wrote:
Has this changed? I never had to go through this, but I have heard enough people complaining on boards the last couple years that the medical had to be done through a hospital "approved" by the Chinese embassy in the applicant's country. Some have also said that the medical needed to be "certified" by government authorities before submission.

The whole thing is inane as I have written before. In April 2014, Beijing directed that the pre medical was now only needed in cases where there were legitimate concerns about the applicant's health.


I don't think that the government approved hospital requirement ever applied to the U.S.. Few American public health clinics can provide all of the services required, and there haven't been many (if any) state government-run hospitals since the Reagan era. When I first came over, the "government approved stipulation" was not in effect but appeared on the Chinese consulate website. My family doctor performed all of the tests, and the consulate accepted the medical check.

By the "pre medical" do you mean the medical check that one must take in his home country prior to applying for a visa? I wonder if anyone has procured a visa from a consulate without one. I wonder whose "legitimate concerns" qualify.

I wonder why there's no mental evaluation for the doctor to check off. Several years ago, there was a certified nutcase at one school who was deported after a few months.
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jimpellow



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 08, 2015 9:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can do some researching when I have time. I swear remembering some of us yanks rightfully bitching about the extra time and costs involved with not only having to do a pre-med. but the extra expense and effort involved with having to do so in a government run hospital, etc. My British friend in Tianjin had to get his last one done in similar fashion and it cost him a lot. I am talking post 2014 changes. The whole thing is a circus show.

I would think the reason they don't do a mental health check is the Asian view towards mental illness. That it is, as you know, a matter of being weak willed.

My "favorite" Western schizophrenic teacher was this one I met while hanging out in Qingdao. Seemed cool for about five minutes, and I was terrified of him after ten. I was trying hard to find a way to get away from him. Luckily, he did that for me by suddenly pulling out a very real looking fake hand-gun and running down the avenue waving it at Chinese people and yelling. Oddly, a fair amount of the Chinese just stood there staring at him, though others did respond by fleeing for their lives. Incredulously, the police came and took his gun and then just took him to his hostel.
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