| View previous topic :: View next topic |
| Author |
Message |
Mingvase
Joined: 19 Jan 2016
Posts: 62
|
 Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2016 11:47 pm Post subject: Does a CRC have to be notarised in the UK? |
 |
|
I read on the Beijinger http://www.thebeijinger.com/forum/2015/07/17/getting-z-visa-uk
that you have to get your criminal record check notarised by the FCO and the Chinese consulate. Is t his true? And do you need a crc for all provinces in China or do some not ask for a crc? I was told by a visa agency here in the UK that I don't need a cRC to get a Z visa. I am confused. |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
hz88
Joined: 27 Sep 2015
Posts: 162
|
| Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2016 11:17 pm Post subject: |
|
|
The z visa is a vehicle to get you into China for work purposes.
Generally it is not required for this part of the process. What it is needed for is the Foreign Experts Certificate and now in most provinces the Resident Permit. Before you receive the z visa you will need an Invitation letter for a z visa which is provided by the provincial education bureau. Most provinces are now requesting a criminal record check which is why you have to get one.
The z visa is only valid for 30 days after arrival in China during which time it must be exchanged with the local police for a resident permit. This part of the process needs the criminal record check.
There is a lot of work that goes on behind the scenes before and after your arrival, most of which you wont be aware of as your employer will deal with. What I will say is that despite what anyone may say, given the considerable tightening up of legislation recently and the publicised further tightening which is due to be introduced after the upcoming new year if you are not being asked for a background check then you are most likely not going to be employed legally in China.
As for notarisation, if it has been requested then as long as it is notorised I think any location is acceptable. In my province as long as the document is clearly original it doesnt need to have been notorised. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
SH_Panda
Joined: 31 May 2011
Posts: 455
|
| Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2016 12:30 am Post subject: |
|
|
| hz88 wrote: |
The z visa is a vehicle to get you into China for work purposes.
Generally it is not required for this part of the process. What it is needed for is the Foreign Experts Certificate and now in most provinces the Resident Permit. Before you receive the z visa you will need an Invitation letter for a z visa which is provided by the provincial education bureau. Most provinces are now requesting a criminal record check which is why you have to get one.
The z visa is only valid for 30 days after arrival in China during which time it must be exchanged with the local police for a resident permit. This part of the process needs the criminal record check.
There is a lot of work that goes on behind the scenes before and after your arrival, most of which you wont be aware of as your employer will deal with. What I will say is that despite what anyone may say, given the considerable tightening up of legislation recently and the publicised further tightening which is due to be introduced after the upcoming new year if you are not being asked for a background check then you are most likely not going to be employed legally in China.
As for notarisation, if it has been requested then as long as it is notorised I think any location is acceptable. In my province as long as the document is clearly original it doesnt need to have been notorised. |
what is the 'further tightening' you refer to? |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
SH_Panda
Joined: 31 May 2011
Posts: 455
|
| Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2016 8:43 am Post subject: |
|
|
hz88?  |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
OhBudPowellWhereArtThou
Joined: 02 Jun 2015
Posts: 1168
Location: Since 2003
|
| Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2016 10:29 am Post subject: |
|
|
| The Party meeting is long one. He'll be back. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
wangdaning
Joined: 22 Jan 2008
Posts: 3154
|
| Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2016 11:08 am Post subject: Re: Does a CRC have to be notarised in the UK? |
|
|
| Mingvase wrote: |
I read on the Beijinger http://www.thebeijinger.com/forum/2015/07/17/getting-z-visa-uk
that you have to get your criminal record check notarised by the FCO and the Chinese consulate. Is t his true? And do you need a crc for all provinces in China or do some not ask for a crc? I was told by a visa agency here in the UK that I don't need a cRC to get a Z visa. I am confused. |
Why would a visa agent care about the further processing, they get the visa (get paid) and care not what might be needed after that happens. Once in China, it may be required for your RP and/or FEC. Also, no, it does not have to be authenticated in the UK, would be dumb for people from other countries to do that in light that the UK would authenticate foreign documents in a way that China might not accept. Please understand, getting the visa is only one step in the process. You get a stamp in your passport for residence and an experts booklet issues after arrival. I don't know how mandatory a CBC is for these, as I have never been asked for a CBC. No one really can answer except the person processing the RP or FEC.
Some claim the rules are being enforced now country wide, and everywhere will require them, heard this type of talk for years. It never happens. The social insurance is also now universally applied, right? Not trying to say anything about my salary, but 10,000 plus and about 2-300 for the insurance thing. It was said it would be what, 10%, and these rumors were all over the place. If one is to take the CCP announcements of policy as actual policy then you are right, but the fact is they announce party political aspirations, the government implements them differently/in the way they want. I am not going all pro-gov, just saying the CCP word is not what happens in all cases. The government has to implement these policies, and that is an interesting beast all in itself. It is like an EO from Obama (to be fair or any US Presidente) and how state lawmakers, federal government offices, and people enforce them. It is still law that anyone outside of their hukou and danwei is illegal, unless registard (meant typo), but nobody follows or cares. My wife was made to care only because we had a child. Don't follow the rules pay more, and the hospitals will keep data. Damn, need it insert more wumao stuff, Mao was great. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
bestteacher2012
Joined: 22 Aug 2012
Posts: 160
|
| Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2016 11:17 am Post subject: |
|
|
| SH_Panda wrote: |
| hz88 wrote: |
The z visa is a vehicle to get you into China for work purposes.
Generally it is not required for this part of the process. What it is needed for is the Foreign Experts Certificate and now in most provinces the Resident Permit. Before you receive the z visa you will need an Invitation letter for a z visa which is provided by the provincial education bureau. Most provinces are now requesting a criminal record check which is why you have to get one.
The z visa is only valid for 30 days after arrival in China during which time it must be exchanged with the local police for a resident permit. This part of the process needs the criminal record check.
There is a lot of work that goes on behind the scenes before and after your arrival, most of which you wont be aware of as your employer will deal with. What I will say is that despite what anyone may say, given the considerable tightening up of legislation recently and the publicised further tightening which is due to be introduced after the upcoming new year if you are not being asked for a background check then you are most likely not going to be employed legally in China.
As for notarisation, if it has been requested then as long as it is notorised I think any location is acceptable. In my province as long as the document is clearly original it doesnt need to have been notorised. |
what is the 'further tightening' you refer to? |
Maybe the rules will be tightening in his backward province. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
hz88
Joined: 27 Sep 2015
Posts: 162
|
| Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2016 4:40 am Post subject: |
|
|
Sorry for the delay in replying, been on holiday.
It was mentioned before the holiday that degrees will have to be notarized before being accepted even at the initial application stage. As to exactly how this has to be carried out is still vague. Luckily I got mine verified the last time I went back home as I predicted it might happen. This will also apply to those renewing their resident permits in province or those transferring resident permits from another province.
A criminal record check is also definitely a must.
Our FAO has confirmed this yesterday and I have been told to relay this on to our other foreign teachers. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
The Voice Of Reason
Joined: 29 Jun 2004
Posts: 492
|
| Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2016 6:22 am Post subject: |
|
|
| Good info @ hz88 Cheers! |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
bagua8
Joined: 22 Mar 2012
Posts: 57
|
| Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2016 9:19 am Post subject: |
|
|
| I'll be working in Zhejiang province, and was asked by my employer to provide a legalised CRC. Legalising the document involved having it authenticated by the department of foreign affairs in my country (Australia) and authenticated again by the Chinese consulate in the same state as the office of the department of foreign affairs I used. As I'm not in Australia and the Chinese consulates won't accept anything by mail, I had to use a visa agent. My American wife has to do something very similar, which involves using an appropriate department of state, in her case the one in Massachusetts. I was working with the assumption that a copy of the legalised document was required for the FEC application in China, as my employer seemed to want it immediately. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
OhBudPowellWhereArtThou
Joined: 02 Jun 2015
Posts: 1168
Location: Since 2003
|
| Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2016 12:49 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| bagua8 wrote: |
| My American wife has to do something very similar, which involves using an appropriate department of state, in her case the one in Massachusetts. |
Is the U.S. State Department (in Washington, D.C.) no longer in the chain of authentication? |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
bagua8
Joined: 22 Mar 2012
Posts: 57
|
| Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2016 2:28 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Some states don't require the extra step of authentication in DC, and others do. Fortunately for my wife, Massachusetts doesn't. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
OhBudPowellWhereArtThou
Joined: 02 Jun 2015
Posts: 1168
Location: Since 2003
|
| Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2016 4:36 pm Post subject: |
|
|
That's sort of how it was back in 2003 when I got mine authenticated. Some states were not required to provide authentication by the local Department of state or the other local entities. My state was on the list that required me to jump through every local and state hoop AND send it to the Dept. of State in D.C., and then to the Chinese Consulate in D.C..
It's nutty.
Good luck. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
FAQ
Search
Memberlist
Usergroups
Register
Profile
Log in to check your private messages
Log in
