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Hod
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 Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2016 8:28 pm Post subject: CELTA YL Extension - End of year sale? |
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I think the two-week CELTA Young Learner Extension is a decent course. Cambridge are withdrawing it this year, though, but there is still the Trinity TYLEC.
I thought the CELTA YL was fairly cheap to do, but check this out.
https://www.britishcouncil.sg/teach/courses-qualifications/celta-yl/young-learners-extension
This course will cost the equivalent of £1700 at the British Council Singapore.
I assume many have done this course of will do in this its final year. How much will/would you pay? |
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currentaffairs
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| I would probably save up and go for the Delta/Trinity Diploma or MA for that kind of money... |
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Xie Lin
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Since it's a two-week course, full-time, I'd say half the fee for a CELTA course, which seem to average around $1,600, some higher, some lower. So off the top of my head, around $800 seems fair. Of course, that doesn't come within throwing distance of the actual fee!
So are we going into business, Hod, with a takeover of the YL course? 
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Hod
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| Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2016 9:03 pm Post subject: |
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| I would probably save up and go for the Delta/Trinity Diploma or MA for that kind of money.. |
I'd have to agree in terms of value for money, but some people need YL training.
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Since it's a two-week course, full-time, I'd say half the fee for a CELTA course, which seem to average around $1,600, some higher, some lower. So off the top of my head, around $800 seems fair. Of course, that doesn't come within throwing distance of the actual fee!
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I did my CELTA at IH Newcastle (UK) who now charge £1300. The BC Singapore's CELTA is the equivalent of £2800. Yikes. I thought beer was pricey in Singapore.
With CELTA, though, there's plenty of choice to shop around, and not being rude to the BC Singapore but I don't know who'd choose CELTA there at that price.
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| So are we going into business, Hod, with a takeover of the YL course? |
You've clearly seen my business acumen is second to none. One small problem could be I am the worst YL teacher in the world. I was actually looking at YL courses for me! |
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Xie Lin
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You've clearly seen my business acumen is second to none. One small problem could be I am the worst YL teacher in the world. I was actually looking at YL courses for me!
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We'd make a great pair, then! Give me motivated adults any day of the week. That's one reason I'm fond of teaching ESL in recent immigrant programs. I think teachers willing to deal with classroom management issues in many YL settings deserve medals. (Although they might prefer raises!) 
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Hod
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| Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2016 11:59 pm Post subject: |
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Unless you want to rot in central Europe, you need to think about teaching Young Learners.
I can’t be rude about DELTA, although it too is only for adults, but those wearing an MA or "higher" on their sleeves have to admit a lack of YL experience and consequently opportunities. |
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chinaamber
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You can teach YL classes for your Delta, for both M2 and 3, I did mine distance which meant I could choose from my own classes. Not sure whether intensive ones use only adults, depends on the centre I guess.
I did the Celtyl, was useful as a starting certificate. The Singapore price seems extortionate, mine was £600 or so. |
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santi84
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| I teach young learners (ages 5-7) and I really wouldn't pay a dime for this course. You could spend 100 hours alone on classroom management techniques, let alone an entire certificate. It's just my humble opinion, but I believe full teacher certification is really the only worthwhile option. |
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Hod
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| Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2016 3:07 pm Post subject: |
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| Agree a PGCE will be best, but CELTA YL or TYLEC will be better than nothing. |
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D. Amokachi
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I did my CELTA at IH Newcastle (UK)
I was actually looking at YL courses for me! |
Not sure if you're still based in the North East but IH Newcastle offer a YL course of their own. Might be worth looking into. |
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Hod
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Thanks. I saw that, but it's a one-week course for £320.
Best value I've seen anywhere is the three-week TYLEC at BC Ukraine for the equivalent of £250. |
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D. Amokachi
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| Hod wrote: |
Thanks. I saw that, but it's a one-week course for £320.
Best value I've seen anywhere is the three-week TYLEC at BC Ukraine for the equivalent of £250. |
Fair enough. When did you do your CELTA btw? And who were your trainers? |
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Hod
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| Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2016 3:50 pm Post subject: |
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| A few years ago, 2000. The two trainers have moved on. |
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currentaffairs
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| Yes, there are Young Learner pathways for the Delta/Trinity Diploma so you can see why this add-on course is dying out.. |
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GambateBingBangBOOM
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| santi84 wrote: |
| I teach young learners (ages 5-7) and I really wouldn't pay a dime for this course. You could spend 100 hours alone on classroom management techniques, let alone an entire certificate. It's just my humble opinion, but I believe full teacher certification is really the only worthwhile option. |
I agree. I also think that if it takes a year to learn how to teach elementary school (doing a 'consecutive B.Ed', a PGCE, or a 'teacher credential'), a year to learn how to teach junior or senior high school math after having a degree in math, a year to teach history after doing a degree in history (and it usually requires at least a couple of courses in the history of the country), or a year to learn to teach French after finishing a degree in French and the fluency exam, then it should take a year to learn to teach English: and that is how long it takes to do an MA in TESOL full time in the UK or Australia. There's a job ad on this site from a place in Saudi Arabia asking for an MA in TESOL or a one year diploma in TESOL (or a DELTA, I think).
The CELTA is an initial teacher certificate, but it isn't a 'certificate' in the way a Post-graduate Certificate in Education is a 'certificate'. |
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