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slquoue



Joined: 24 Apr 2014
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 11:05 pm    Post subject: Teaching at ADEC Reply with quote

According to the Teach Away website, teachers who want to apply for a job at ADEC need:

Native English speaking fluency
Minimum of a Bachelor’s Degree
Teaching certification (licensed/certified to teach in home state/province)
Minimum 2 years of teaching experience at the relevant level

Assuming you have these qualifications, you can earn between 12,300-20,400 AED / month, and save around 60-70% of your salary. Does this really mean that in a year you could potentially save around £20,000? And over the course of a two year contract you could potentially manage to save around £45,000 with the additional two months payment upon completion of contract?

Has anyone actually done this? And is Teach Away the best way of applying for these positions?
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nomad soul



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2015 12:06 am    Post subject: Re: Teaching at ADEC Reply with quote

Teachers with bachelor's degrees aren't going to earn that higher salary. Additionally, keep in mind, the applicant's degree major must match the subject he/she is licensed or certified to teach, and those minimum two years of k-12 teaching experience should have been gained in the applicant's home country. ADEC is firm about these requirements. For example, a BA in business + a license to teach language arts (obtained via an online teacher licensing program) + experience teaching children in Thailand, isn't going to cut it. Therefore, in your particular case, you'd need to return to your home country for certification and subsequently, a couple of years of relevant teaching experience before you'd qualify for a position with ADEC.

Anyway, do an Internet search on ADEC teaching jobs to see which other recruiters prescreen candidates for ADEC.
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slquoue



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2015 12:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah. Makes sense, to be honest, but I had overlooked this. In which case, if I specify my qualifications in more detail perhaps you could suggest the best ELT jobs that I could apply for in the Middle East in terms of earning potential, preferably in the UAE?

Native English speaking fluency
BA (Hons) History
MA History (East Asian history)
CELTA qualification
3 years' experience teaching ELT in Japan and South Korea at high school level
Newly-qualified PGCE (UK teaching certification) in history
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nomad soul



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2015 1:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Go ahead and apply. But again, you need at least 2 years of experience post-PGCE teaching history in a public/private school in the UK in order to qualify for positions in the UAE. Employers like ADEC and ADVETI expect teachers to have already gained teaching experience in their home countries versus trying to learn on the job as a newbie. Moreover, your license qualifies you to teach history not English. So get your two years of experience in your home country, and then focus on IB and British curriculum international schools in the UAE since Emirati history is not a subject expats teach in the country's public schools.

If ELT is your interest, then apply for EFL jobs in Saudi Arabia; some contracting companies still hire those with unrelated degrees. See the ads for KSA on the Cafe's international job board.
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slquoue



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2015 8:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for your reply. I realise my questions mark me out as a newbie who has little idea of the situation so I really appreciate your patient and helpful advice! So my two options are:

1. Teach for 2 years in a UK school before applying to IB / British curriculum international schools in the UAE to teach history
2. Apply for ELT jobs in Saudi Arabia.

A couple of follow up questions:

1. Do you have any idea of the likelihood of getting a job in the first case if I had the requisite two years' experience? I imagine jobs teaching history in international schools are harder to find than jobs teaching a 'core' subject such as English or maths with ADEC ...

2. Is the second case the best option if I wanted to start now and teach ELT and maximise my income from time spent teaching in the Middle East? Are there any specific companies / institutions in KSA that you would recommend me applying to?

Thanks again for your help
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nomad soul



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2015 9:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

slquoue wrote:
1. Do you have any idea of the likelihood of getting a job in the first case if I had the requisite two years' experience? I imagine jobs teaching history in international schools are harder to find than jobs teaching a 'core' subject such as English or maths with ADEC ...

I have no clue what your chances are. You could do an Internet search for a list of IB and British curriculum international schools in the UAE and check out their websites to get an idea of teaching requirements and content taught. Or pose your question on International Schools Review's forum.

and wrote:
2. Is the second case the best option if I wanted to start now and teach ELT and maximise my income from time spent teaching in the Middle East? Are there any specific companies / institutions in KSA that you would recommend me applying to?

Unfortuntately, you don't have the luxury of choosing specific contracting companies and direct-hire employers because your unrelated degrees put you at the bottom. Again, check out the ads for KSA on the Cafe's international job board and/or other TEFL job sites. Most contracting companies require, at minimum, a relevant BA; however, some ads indicate flexibility. (Contracting companies employ teachers and assign them to various university or institute EFL programs. By contrast, direct-hire means the university hires the teacher directly but only those holding relevant MAs.) Anyway, just be sure to ask at the interview who the actual employer (contracting company) is since these companies tend to be sketchy---some worse than others. You'd then need to research the company to decide if the position is right for you.

Oman might be an option through Hawthorn (company). Do an Internet search for their latest job ad to see if unrelated degrees are accepted. However, Oman pays the lowest in the region and you won't have a choice as to where the company sends you.

Teaching jobs in Saudi Arabia are no longer plentiful for those with unrelated degrees. Plus, the governments of Qatar, Kuwait, and KSA don't accept university degrees that included online/distance coursework. That's the reality.
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revilo



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 2:41 am    Post subject: Footprints is also gettin into the act Reply with quote

I looked over the spam from Footprints and it said ADEC is looking for teachers once again:

"ADEC (Abu Dhabi Education Council)
The Abu Dhabi Education Council (ADEC) is interviewing for all jobs in the following cities in early 2015. Click on the city where you can interview for details"

The usual cities were listed: NY, Chicago, Charlotte, Los Angeles, Vancouver.
a couple years ago, I got interviewed by ADEC's *beep* VP who insisted I recite my knowledge of Bloom's taxonomy. I hung up on him and went to China, instead.

My question is this: Doesn't it seem odd that ADEC is relying on 2 or more companies to do their recruiting? Does anyone have teaching experience w/ ADEC? My assumption was that Emirati students were just as arrogant and obnoxious as Kuwaiti students. Am I right?
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veiledsentiments



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 4:08 pm    Post subject: Re: Footprints is also gettin into the act Reply with quote

revilo wrote:
My question is this: Doesn't it seem odd that ADEC is relying on 2 or more companies to do their recruiting? Does anyone have teaching experience w/ ADEC? My assumption was that Emirati students were just as arrogant and obnoxious as Kuwaiti students. Am I right?

Probably a safe assumption. Many of the ADEC jobs are teaching k-3 or 4th grade I think. Many have found that they are unable to handle these kids... others have done well enough. This is why they want experienced teachers.

Not so surprising that they are using more than one recruiter. They need many teachers and why not? It seems that Teachaway has placed the most and has the best reputation with the teachers as to how they have handled things.

VS
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Shaecarts



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PostPosted: Wed May 18, 2016 1:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am bumping this thread... does anyone have up to date info on ADEC?
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David S



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PostPosted: Wed May 18, 2016 11:31 pm    Post subject: ADEC Reply with quote

Have applied for ADEC positions to Mr2Global and Astute Education (2 british recruitment companies). One was advertised as ESL . These jobas, whilst mentioning TESOL & CELTA as helpful, they are requiring mainstream teachers with experience of teaching English curricula in high schools, thus including literature etc - a little different than ESL, though of course there is some overlap.

If you're looking for ESL, then maybe ADVETI positions in vocational colleges in UAE may be possible, but I have not met with any success there either. This is despite my CELTA plus 10 years' experience and my British PGCE and 13 years' experience teaching (RE) in British schools.

Check the recruiter and clarify that it's not simply an ESL English position.
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dragonpiwo



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PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2016 5:45 am    Post subject: erm Reply with quote

I'm in the UAE. Many people I know work for ADEC. The guys I know are on about 21k plus free housing, return tickets and 20k furniture allowance. They work from around 7 till 2.30. Cushy job by the sound of it. They also have a 2-month holiday coming up.

Gulf kids are Gulf kids. You can either handle them or not.

For me, working here is about money not job satisfaction.
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veiledsentiments



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PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2016 2:15 pm    Post subject: Re: ADEC Reply with quote

David S wrote:
Have applied for ADEC positions to Mr2Global and Astute Education (2 british recruitment companies). One was advertised as ESL . These jobas, whilst mentioning TESOL & CELTA as helpful, they are requiring mainstream teachers with experience of teaching English curricula in high schools, thus including literature etc - a little different than ESL, though of course there is some overlap.

They may be advertising as such, but these are not for teaching a traditional American or British English class (which is lit). Most of their hires have been elementary grades and they want teachers with both the proper teaching license, but also ESL experience.

The high school level teachers are mainly doing ESL. They are supposed to be replacements for the university foundations courses. So it is more an ESL class with perhaps a tiny overlap of a "literature, etc" course.

VS
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