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VN's archaic education pushes more students abroad

 
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 29, 2016 6:29 am    Post subject: VN's archaic education pushes more students abroad Reply with quote

A year old but still interesting...

Vietnam's creaking education system pushes students overseas
By Agence France-Presse | 21 January 2015
Source: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/afp/article-2919749/Vietnams-creaking-education-pushes-students-overseas.html

Wearied by the rampant cheating, endless rote learning and mandatory Leninist ideology classes, Vietnam's middle-classes are fleeing the country's school system for overseas education. Every year, Vietnamese parents spend more than $1 billion sending their children to schools and colleges abroad, according to data from independent monitors, shunning a local system so backwards that experts say it is impeding economic growth.

From teenagers sent to secondary schools in Singapore to university students studying at prestigious American institutions, at least 125,000 Vietnamese students are studying overseas, according to ICEF Monitor, which tracks the international education industry. The figure represents just a fraction of the nation's near-17 million school and university students, but it is growing fast -- up 15 percent year-on-year in 2013 alone.

Civil servant Nguyen Thi Thu sold family property to cover the hundreds of thousands of dollars needed for her two sons to study overseas. "I had to get my kids out of this education system which is all pressure and cheating," she told AFP. When her sons -- who both now study in the UK -- were attending state schools in Hanoi, Thu says she had to regularly miss work to take them to additional private classes held by poorly-paid state teachers. "Once, my son asked me why he never got the top score even though he performed better than his friend. I couldn't explain that his friend's mother took better care of the teacher, giving her much money," she said.

Vietnam's Confucian lineage means education is something of a national obsession, but experts say schools are failing students, leaving parents desperate to get their children into western institutions that will give them the qualifications they need to find employment. Some 20,000 Vietnamese now study in Australia, 16,500 in the United States and 5,000 in the UK -- small but significant numbers from a communist country where only the elite have traditionally had access to foreign education. Yet despite the increased exodus, foreign universities still remain out of reach for most families in Vietnam, where average per capita income is just over $1,500.

Vietnam's state education does score well in some indices -- the country ranked 17th out of 65 for mathematics and science according to the Programme for International Student Assessment (PISA) chart, ahead of many wealthy western countries including the US. But top officials have warned these test results do not accurately reflect the quality of overall education in a nation where central control has cramped policy innovation. "We have to be honest and admit that if fully assessed, Vietnamese students' capacity is still poor," Nguyen Vinh Hien, deputy minister of education and training was quoted in Tuoi Tre newspaper in 2013.

Four decades after the end of the Vietnam War in 1975, officials have yet to fully reform an education sector, which critics say still works to promote the Party rather than create skilled workers. Authorities have kept in place a system heavy on rote learning, regurgitation of facts to pass exams, and obedience to authority -- with little room for critical thinking. Students rely on outdated, leaden text books, cheating is routine in exams while underpaid teachers are renowned for withholding chunks of the syllabus to instead impart in private classes they can charge for. "University education is so bad. Text books are full of unnecessary, tedious theory," former education minister Pham Minh Hac told AFP, warning that the books were so information-heavy they turned students off studying.

During and immediately after Vietnam’s annual high-school graduation exams in the summer there are always multiple complaints to the Ministry of Education of cheating by students. In June 2014, well-known education activist, teacher Do Viet Khoa posted on his Facebook page video clips of students copying during Literature and History exams at a high school in northern Hoa Binh province.

According to Khoa, exam supervisors deliberately left the exam rooms, allowing the examinees to freely copy from already prepared papers and discuss the exams among themselves, VietnamNet news site said. Such clips routinely go viral and prompt widespread concern among parents, but authorities rarely – if ever – take action.

As a result of these shortcomings, Vietnamese state schools and universities are not producing graduates companies want to hire -- some 147,000 post graduates could not find work this year, according to official statistics. "These graduates can't meet the demands of the labour market," Hac said, blaming the school system for "teaching knowledge not wisdom." Instead staff for management positions are often imported -- from Korea, China and the US.

With very few top-quality private schools in Vietnam, escaping the dysfunctional state education system is a priority the better off. "They have changed a lot in their thoughts, their lifestyle, their performance, behaviour and viewpoints," businessman Nguyen Quang Thinh said of his two sons studying in the US at a cost of $40,000 a year. Lu Thi Hong Nham, director of study abroad consultancy firm Duc Anh added: "Many students were fed up when studying inside the country, but overseas they gained very good results."

Unless communist Vietnam is prepared to let the education system be run by experts not politicians, things are not going to change, renowned teaching expert Pham Toan warned. "You can do nothing... when education is in the communist party's resolution," he said, referring to a paper passed in 2013 that calls for a "comprehensive renovation" of the education system, without specifying changes. "I am truly desperate" with the system, he added.

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I recently read that VN's emerging economy has resulted in a surge of middle class families with money to send their kids abroad to the US and other Anglophone universities (with business as a top degree major). That said, has there been an increase in demand for EAP teachers in order to meet the language needs of uni students heading overseas?
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 29, 2016 8:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's all true. Anyone who spends any time at all here knows that the education system in the country is in shambles. I've had students who come from relatively "poor" families who sacrifice a lot to send their children over seas to Europe, Japan, or the US to study.

I don't care for the political undertones to this article, but in regards to the education system, it's spot on.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 29, 2016 12:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Several Asian countries have systems where rote learning is the norm (including Korea and China).

How cheating has become the norm is what annoys me. Here's an article about Vietnam, but it must be common in other Asian countries, too.

http://m.thanhniennews.com/society/educators-not-surprised-by-examcheating-survey-5903.html

How to stop them doing the same at foreign universities? I have read about cases of Chinese students paying other people to do their assignments and hardly being able to speak English. What's the IELTS requirement these days? I'd like to see a 7.0 minimum.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 29, 2016 4:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ExpatLuke wrote:
I don't care for the political undertones to this article.

Specifically...?

Also, as to my question: Has there been an increased demand for EAP teachers in order to meet the language needs of university students who plan to head overseas?
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 01, 2016 2:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nomad soul wrote:
ExpatLuke wrote:
I don't care for the political undertones to this article.

Specifically...?
I should probably let ExpatLuke answer this but I had the same impression reading the article.

The author repeatedly references "the Party" or "state education" or similar phraseology. There is one reference to "Confucian lineage" as leading to respect for education but there is no follow-up on the extent that Confucianism is actually a big part of the problem, being focused on order and respect for authority. The Party which certainly bears its fair share of responsibility, utilizes the Confucian ethic to manage the educational system. The Party is far from blameless but not wholly responsible. "[R]ote learning, regurgitation of facts to pass exams, and obedience to authority -- with little room for critical thinking" probably could just as well have described Vietnamese education during the Le and Tran Dynasties, well before Marx and Lenin. If any Western country had an influence on Vietnamese education, it was likely France, a country with a very testing oriented system. The Party did not create the system, they just haven't changed it.

Change will come. I had students identify the good (non-ESL) teachers to me by making comments like "She really teaches us things." I have also had teachers tell me that they would like to change the curriculum but have to teach for the national tests. Eventually and hopefully, these people find their way to the top.

And don't worry about the "Leninist ideology classes." The kids see right through them.
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