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[Mingvase]

For Delta/Masters holders, this job is as attractive as it gets in the UK

https://jobsearch.direct.gov.uk/GetJob.aspx?JobID=24668472

The job spec seems quite daunting for any prospective applicant though.

[veiledsentiments]

I guess that demonstrates why teachers will go to Saudi rather than stay home. Rather a pathetic salary... and even worse after taxes... for long hours as a program administrator.

VS

[nomad soul]

There are way more TESOL jobs outside the UK and other Anglophone countries. Plus consider how many applicants will be vying for that job with its long laundry list.

[mahdi1432]

To answer the title's question:

Taxes and cost of living alone make KSA better than UK.

The effective rate of your earnings (pay to amount of time spent working) is also higher in KSA since most jobs are salaried with 7AM to 2PM generally.

[plumpy nut]

That only goes to those that are lucky. You don't make very much money if you spend thousands on a visa, months waiting for the visa. and then Ali Baba in your class has decided he has something against you. The other students and the school could care a less about what happens to you. It's not the liberal West, Saudi Arabia isn't exactly civilization. Are you going to be able to count on a nice established advanced medical system in Saudi Arabia? What is the end result of relying on the Saudis? They only offer things to get people to come there and make money for them. Otherwise the country couldn't give a crap about any Westerner. Where is the moral imperatives that is going to see things to the end for any westerner that goes there? At the place that I worked at we were put in an apartment right next to a highway outside of the city. Everybody knows how the idiot Saudis drive. No problem I'll just be extra careful, besides I like the money; One of the teachers wives was hit and killed out there. No benefit there. A bus of instructors was in an accident, people with broken legs etc. The instructor that was talking about it said he saw some people that didn't even look alive. I believe the school was supplying them Class C insurance or some 3rd rate insurance. Everybody had to foot the cost themselves. Some people had to fend for themselves when it came time to fixing their broken limbs and some weren't able to, the limbs remained untreated. One of my acquaintance/friends has disappeared, not to be heard from again. What a coincidence that he disappeared in Saudi Arabia.

[In the heat of the moment]

That's unfortunate. I've lived in three cities in the Magic Kingdom, four and a half years and counting, and never been in a RTA. Seen many, colleagues have been driving and been in them (although never hospitalised, thank Dog), and I'm thoroughly aware of the frightening statistics of RTAs in the KSA - it's well documented here and online.

I wouldn't say I'm lucky, could get knocked over by a bus tomorrow, but I have awesome colleagues, a lovely (free) apartment, no utility bills or taxes, and I can leave any time I want, unlike the Saudi population who have to stay to receive their rentier-sourced income.

Maybe I am lucky..

[scot47]

I was never in an RTA in KSA. I did have open heart surgery (a bypass) for which I paid the first 50 Saudi Riyals. The insurance picked up the rest of the tab for the procedure which was ably carried out by a South African cardiac surgeon, assisted by a multinational support team (including truly remarkable Zulu nurses.)

As I have said elsewhere, when going to KSA, choose your masters with care.

[grahamb]

Are they available on the NHS?

[hash]

[spiral78]

[veiledsentiments]

[plumpy nut]

You might have to have additional education or a career change in order to benefit from jobs in the UK. Keep in mind that the ESL jobs in Asia keep getting worse and worse. The time to exit is coming near. People teaching in Asia are soon going to have to realize the fact that they will have to work a job that is not so laid back anymore. It's OK because really what good do you do working in Saudi Arabia anyway. The pork barrel is over.

[In the heat of the moment]

Lightening fast internet means you can enjoy all media those back home do, the restaurants offer western fatty/salty crap and good eastern foods, supermarkets in Asia now stock good bread, cheese, refreshments, and most countries are gagging to employ native English speakers who have some sort of work ethic.

Fortuna Audaces Iuvat.

[bigdurianthesecond]

[In the heat of the moment]