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rachmaninov3 · Joined: 10 Mar 2016 Posts: 13

I saw an advert for teachers with a business visa or Z visa. Can you teach on a business visa in china then?

SH_Panda · Joined: 31 May 2011 Posts: 455

You can... but it's illegal.

JamesD · Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2016 6:42 am Post subject:

rachmaninov3 · Joined: 10 Mar 2016 Posts: 13

Won't you get paid then?

jesso92 · Joined: 05 Dec 2015 Posts: 60

This is weird, they are also telling me, that I will apply for a business busy to work there. Whats up with that?

rachmaninov3 · Joined: 10 Mar 2016 Posts: 13

Who is telling you to get a business visa?

JamesD · Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2016 10:33 am Post subject: Re: no

doogsville · Joined: 17 Nov 2011 Posts: 924 Location: China

I worked for a private school, AKA language mill some years ago that employed people who were not eligible for a work permit as a 'foreign expert'. One was German and the others were Filipino, so they didn't qualify as native English speakers. The school worked round this by obtaining F, or business visas for them by saying they were 'managers'. They even had fancy certificates printed for them that said they were managers. I know this because I went on a visa run with the German guy who showed me the certificate he had to give to the visa agency in Macau that provided his F visa. The owners of the school had connections and therefore serious guanxi with the PSB that processed the work and resident permits for the city.

Everyone knew what was going on, but everyone pretended everything was okay. That's all great until something goes wrong, at which point you end up in jail until you are deported. Having said that, none of the 'managers' I knew ever had any problems, and at least one of them is still teaching five years later. Your mileage may vary.

rachmaninov3 · Joined: 10 Mar 2016 Posts: 13

Could the German and Filipinos open a bank account on a business visa do you know? is it possible to do this in China on a business visa?

doogsville · Joined: 17 Nov 2011 Posts: 924 Location: China

OhBudPowellWhereArtThou · Joined: 02 Jun 2015 Posts: 1168 Location: Since 2003

mrenglish2nd · Joined: 07 Mar 2016 Posts: 45

I did it for more than 5 years, from mid 2009 to late 2014, mostly with my own 1-man private tutoring business in Guangzhou (convenient for visa runs to Hong Kong) but I worked numerous side jobs with one corporate training outfit, one high school, several kindergartens, one primary school, and numerous small private outfits mostly catering to adults. It's no problem in spite of any negative nonsense you might read here. If you're serious get one of the 10-year visas and you're set for a long time.

Shanghai Noon · Joined: 18 Aug 2013 Posts: 589 Location: Shanghai, China

Guys, there is already a sticky about this: http://forums.eslcafe.com/job/viewtopic.php?t=48879

Maybe we should rename it from Teaching on a tourist visa is that bad? to include all visa types. There is literally nothing about this topic that has not been said already; no perspective, positive or negative, that has not been given.

mrenglish2nd · Joined: 07 Mar 2016 Posts: 45

Agreed, and literally nothing that has not been disagreed on too!

Lack · Joined: 10 Aug 2011 Posts: 252