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Sudz
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 Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2016 1:55 am Post subject: Unpaid residence tax/health insurance and moving |
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Hey guys,
I'm going to move to Tokyo in a week or so, and still owe some residence tax/health insurance. At this point, I am only able to put a dent in these - though could likely pay off the residence tax. Paying off my MA, plus my trip to Canada, has set me back a bit - also, as you know, moving into an apartment can be pricey here.
Might this be an issue, or would my bills simply follow me to Tokyo. I'm currently in Nagano at the moment.
Thanks in advance. |
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Maitoshi
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| Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2016 10:55 am Post subject: |
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| No personal experience on the bills following you, but it seems likely. You will need to go to city hall and inform them of your intention to move. You will need the paperwork they give you to register your new residence in Tokyo. If you don't go to city hall in Nagano first, you may find yourself traveling all the way back to Nagano just for this purpose. |
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Lamarr
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| Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2016 2:43 pm Post subject: |
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Unpaid taxes and insurance will follow you. The only way to shake it off is to leave Japan, cancel your residency and come back in on a new visa.
Not sure how true or accurate they are, but there are stories around the internet of people not paying their taxes and being stung with huge penalties (which I can believe), and even of city offices taking money directly out of your bank account, as and when your bank balance equals the amount you owe them. |
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cat mother
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| Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2016 10:54 am Post subject: |
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| Lamarr wrote: |
Unpaid taxes and insurance will follow you. The only way to shake it off is to leave Japan, cancel your residency and come back in on a new visa.
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And with the My Number system even that is no longer possible. |
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currentaffairs
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| I remember always struggling to pay my ward tax. I left it up to a year and then paid everything off. You have to get it under control because 50-70,000 yen x4 is quite a lot of money! |
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Lamarr
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| Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2016 4:21 pm Post subject: |
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| cat mother wrote: |
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Unpaid taxes and insurance will follow you. The only way to shake it off is to leave Japan, cancel your residency and come back in on a new visa.
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And with the My Number system even that is no longer possible. |
Do you mean that, even if you leave Japan, the My Number will remain the same, with your details stored in a database? I wonder though whether, if you came back in on a different passport, it would connect back to your previous stay in Japan or not. I had a friend who managed to get 12 months of tourist visas by leaving and coming back in on a new passport (you get a 3-month tourist visa initially, which you can then extend at immigration for another 3 months). The system didn't register that he was the same person, presumably because it was based on the passport number, not the name. |
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Rooster.
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| Because of the new card system in place I've heard it's more difficult to escape your debts now. |
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cat mother
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| Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2016 1:52 pm Post subject: |
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| Lamarr wrote: |
| cat mother wrote: |
| Lamarr wrote: |
Unpaid taxes and insurance will follow you. The only way to shake it off is to leave Japan, cancel your residency and come back in on a new visa.
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And with the My Number system even that is no longer possible. |
Do you mean that, even if you leave Japan, the My Number will remain the same, with your details stored in a database? I wonder though whether, if you came back in on a different passport, it would connect back to your previous stay in Japan or not. I had a friend who managed to get 12 months of tourist visas by leaving and coming back in on a new passport (you get a 3-month tourist visa initially, which you can then extend at immigration for another 3 months). The system didn't register that he was the same person, presumably because it was based on the passport number, not the name. |
I also have multiple passports and I can confirm that the "come back on a new passport" trick stopped working when they started fingerprinting all arrivals. So the system does register that you are the same person. While you will not be denied entry into Japan as a tourist, you will run into a boatload of problems if you want to apply for a PR later on. The system knew exactly what I had been doing.
Regarding the My Number, yes, in principle the number stays the same, so if you leave Japan and then want to come back a few years later, you will go back to using your "old" number. SSN in the US works like that, too. |
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Sudz
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| Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2016 6:24 am Post subject: |
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Cheers guys. I do plan on paying off these debts, though I suppose I was more curious as to whether or not they would make me pay off everything in full before moving to Kanto. I'm fine with my bills following me to Tokyo - of course though, I'd prefer they didn't : )
Guess I'll really have to build up some side work. I must say I miss the days of not having to worry about money (back in Vietnam.) |
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