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		| maw 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2016 6:15 am    Post subject: Teaching in Finland |   |  
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				| Hi Just wondering if anyone has had experience teaching ESL in Finland. I'm heading to Porvoo to stay with my son and his family for a year but unfortunately I dont have an EU passport.
 If anyone else has been there and knows of any work opportunities I would appreciate any help or suggestions.
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		| spiral78 
 
  
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				|  Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2016 7:43 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| On what legal basis will you stay with your son for a year? 
 I have two friends who have worked as EFL teachers in Finland long-term.  However, both have EU passports and high-level qualifications.  The (vast) majority of English teaching positions are held by well-qualified locals.  I expect you will have a difficult time finding anything other than some random private students, to be honest.
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		| Dedicated 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2016 8:25 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| I have to agree with spiral78 on this. All primary, secondary and university teachers in Finland must have a master's degree. 
 There is an International College in Porvoo as well as the campus of Haaga-Helia University of Applied Sciences. Porvoo is itself about 50km east of Helsinki which is less than an hour away.
 
 Porvoo is actually a beautiful Medieval town with a unique historic old town of wooden buildings and cobbled streets.
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		| maw 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2016 5:55 pm    Post subject: Teaching in Finland |   |  
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				| Thanks so much for your replies. 
 I am able to stay for one year on a family ties visa, but getting a work visa is not as easy.
 Yes, the qualifications need to be very high to work in private institutions in Finland and even though I have worked in Universities here in New Zealand,  the letters i have had back after enquiring, is that they like to employ people who speak Finnish as well....Ive only just started learning it and it could be a while before i'm fluent!!!
 
 I think the private students will probably be the only way at this point.
 Thank you for the links.
 Porvoo is beautiful, I have been there once but in the midst of Winter and -29 degrees, so it will nice to actually see the cobbled roads this time.
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				|  Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2016 10:11 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| There is a university in town. There may be some demand for IELTS tuition. Do you have any experience with IELTS Preparation ? ? |  | 
	
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				|  Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2016 11:54 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Funny, when I first got into TEFL in the 90s there were always a ton of jobs advertised in Finland in the Guardian just asking for a CELTA. Maybe the scene's changed since then. |  | 
	
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		| maw 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2016 7:12 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Yes actually I do have IELTS Prep experience, that could be an option even for private students...thank you, a good marketing niche!! 
 Yes, I think alot of places now seem to want more than CELTA.
 
 I even thought of maybe going to Russia for a teaching stint  while I'm there to make a little money as its not too far from Finland, but they could be asking for more than CELTA now also.
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				|  Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2016 7:35 am    Post subject: |   |  
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	  | Funny, when I first got into TEFL in the 90s there were always a ton of jobs advertised in Finland in the Guardian just asking for a CELTA. Maybe the scene's changed since then. |  The TEFL market has definitely changed over the past 20+ years. More employers and country visa/immigration regulations now require, at minimum, a BA --- some will only accept a TEFL-related degree major and/or a valid TEFL cert. There are also countries that don't recognize degrees or TEFL certs that entailed online studies/coursework.
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				|  Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2016 10:32 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| For university students in Europe now the big deal is ERASMUS which allows movement between unis in the EU. English Language plays a significant role in this and IELTS is a key to opening doors. |  | 
	
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		| maw 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2016 5:06 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Another option I thought of, was trying to do some Online teaching. That seems to have got quite competitive now, but does anyone on this thread know of a reputable company that employs tutors online or has had personal experience with Online Teaching. I wrote to one from Daves ESL, but they semed a bit suspect...wanted all my details but after three emails still wouldn't tell me the name of the person I was communicating with or the name of the company that was supposedly hiring.
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	  | Another option I thought of, was trying to do some Online teaching. That seems to have got quite competitive now, but does anyone on this thread know of a reputable company that employs tutors online or has had personal experience with Online Teaching. |  Ask on most complete on-line school list in universe.
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				|  Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2016 3:33 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Great...thanks for that!! |  | 
	
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