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SunShan
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 Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2016 10:49 am Post subject: Teaching IB job offer at international school |
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I currently have on the table an offer to teach an IB subject at an international school. I had good vibes from the interview, and it seems like an exciting project to be a part of.
The offer is around 22,000RMB per month (including accommodation allowance) + the usual flight, baggage and medical cover etc.
Does this seem like a standard/reasonable offer?
I will have just finished my PGCE in the UK, and considering if it's worth staying here to complete an MEd (which is discounted for the next few years) and gain a couple more years' experience in a British school.
Thoughts welcome.
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SH_Panda
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| Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2016 10:54 am Post subject: |
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Do you already have QTS?
If not, it seems kind of silly to leave the country at this juncture before getting that. |
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SunShan
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| Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2016 11:01 am Post subject: |
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| SH_Panda wrote: |
Do you already have QTS?
If not, it seems kind of silly to leave the country at this juncture before getting that. |
QTS is granted on completion of my PGCE. However, UK schools require newly qualified teachers (NQTs) to pass observations in their first full-time year after this as a kind of probation period before being allowed to continue.
I don't plan on coming back once I leave (but never say never I guess). |
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SH_Panda
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| Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2016 11:06 am Post subject: |
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| SunShan wrote: |
| SH_Panda wrote: |
Do you already have QTS?
If not, it seems kind of silly to leave the country at this juncture before getting that. |
QTS is granted on completion of my PGCE. However, UK schools require newly qualified teachers (NQTs) to pass observations in their first full-time year after this as a kind of probation period before being allowed to continue.
I don't plan on coming back once I leave (but never say never I guess). |
Ah sorry, I was confused. I thought once you finish a PGCE you gain NQT status, which then becomes QTS after a year's experience in a school.
Anyway you should probably do that year, as it seems important. |
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Laurence
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| Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2016 3:00 am Post subject: |
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My how Dave's has changed!
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| considering if it's worth staying here to complete an MEd (which is discounted for the next few years) and gain a couple more years' experience in a British school. |
An MEd will definitely give you more options in the future. You could do it online later if you think you want to aim for department head etc. I did my MEd with the OU - it took three years (should have taken two, D'oh), and it has been a pretty good investment. If you can knock it out in a year I'd say go for it.
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| I thought once you finish a PGCE you gain NQT status, which then becomes QTS after a year's experience in a school. |
That's exactly what I thought, although maybe it's different if your PGCE is part of a BEd. Anyway, a couple of years' experience in a British school will prime you for the top international school jobs in China and elsewhere, like those in the Nord Anglia group, or Dulwich College, or Harrow's foreign brances. There are plenty of other international schools, but the elite ones (with their elite pay!) be out of reach if you leave straight after your PGCE.
Then again, a couple of years' teaching in England is enough to put off like 30% of PGCE grads lol |
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The bear
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| Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2016 3:06 am Post subject: |
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| SH_Panda wrote: |
| SunShan wrote: |
| SH_Panda wrote: |
Do you already have QTS?
If not, it seems kind of silly to leave the country at this juncture before getting that. |
QTS is granted on completion of my PGCE. However, UK schools require newly qualified teachers (NQTs) to pass observations in their first full-time year after this as a kind of probation period before being allowed to continue.
I don't plan on coming back once I leave (but never say never I guess). |
Ah sorry, I was confused. I thought once you finish a PGCE you gain NQT status, which then becomes QTS after a year's experience in a school.
Anyway you should probably do that year, as it seems important. |
Yeah...NQT comes before QTS.
OP I'd really look into that. I mean, it's your course and you're the one doing it, but when I was on a PGCE course I definitely remember it only giving 'NQT' status THEN after 1 year in a school you got QTS. |
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nomad soul
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| SunShan wrote: |
QTS is granted on completion of my PGCE. However, UK schools require newly qualified teachers (NQTs) to pass observations in their first full-time year after this as a kind of probation period before being allowed to continue.
I don't plan on coming back once I leave (but never say never I guess).
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| Laurence wrote: |
A couple of years' experience in a British school will prime you for the top international school jobs in China and elsewhere.
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The elite ones (with their elite pay!) be out of reach if you leave straight after your PGCE. |
Ditto that. If you're considering not returning to the UK, definitely beef up your credentials and add UK teaching experience in order to make yourself uber employable for just about any location worldwide. I don't know what your degree major is, but a focus in elementary education is particularly appealing to international employers if your BA isn't in a STEM subject. |
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Non Sequitur
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| Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2016 10:16 am Post subject: |
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What do you reckon on paying for accom?
That's the big chunk out of deals that don't include on-campus apartments. |
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