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Black_Beer_Man



Joined: 26 Mar 2013
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Location: Yokohama

PostPosted: Fri Apr 29, 2016 6:28 am    Post subject: The Worst People in Japan are.. Reply with quote

Real Estate company people. (In my country, bankers are the worst).

Why?

1. Most of them will make bogus excuses to keep your damage deposit money (usually equivalent to one month's rent). "You scratched this. You dinged that. There's mold on the wall...blah, blah, blah" Even though any minor damage is from normal wear and tear. You in no way abused the place.

2. They're always inventing new bogus charges to hit you with. The apartment that I was just considering has

1. a disinfection fee (17,000 yen) when I move in. This is a new one that I have NEVER seen in the 8 years I have lived here.
2. and a cleaning fee (30,000 yen) when I move out. If the tenants before me and after me have to pay twice, then, that's a damn clean apartment. You should be able to eat off the floor.
Wow! Talk about double dipping! Would you call this "honest" practice?

Newbies in Japan, please be careful if you rent an apartment in Japan. Have a Japanese friend read the rental agreement before you sign it. And shop around to compare what charges you can save on.
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TokyoLiz



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Posts: 1548
Location: Tokyo, Japan

PostPosted: Sat Apr 30, 2016 6:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's a renter's market across Kanto, with abundant empty houses and apartments. Choose 6-10 apartments in your price range, and likely a few of them will have no key money.

IME, I've always gotten my deposit back from rental agents in Kanto.

For other noobs, check out UR housing, too.

http://www.ur-net.go.jp/index.html
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mitsui



Joined: 10 Jun 2007
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Location: Kawasaki

PostPosted: Sat Apr 30, 2016 7:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No key money means you are far from a station.
This guy lives in Osaka.
Usually there is no key money or less than in Kanto.

I live 12 minutes from a station which means key money was unavoidable.

UR is for people who have been here a long time, but should have PR or a Japanese spouse.
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TokyoLiz



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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Location: Tokyo, Japan

PostPosted: Sat Apr 30, 2016 7:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any resident with a visa and resident card can rent UR, not just PR holders and married couples.

Two of my colleagues are non- Japanese single guys who lived in UR apartments in Tokyo. When I was looking for apartments a few years ago, I looked at UR buildings in Chiba and Tokyo, and the UR reps said that the apartments were available to me, non-eijuken and single. However, I settled on a house.

Here's info for anybody looking at this option -

http://www.ur-net.go.jp/index.html
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Inflames



Joined: 02 Apr 2006
Posts: 486

PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2016 1:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mitsui wrote:

UR is for people who have been here a long time, but should have PR or a Japanese spouse.


I also lived in UR when I was single (and live in a different UR apartment with my wife now). Moreover, the UR page (for Kansai at least) has a part for international students (in English and Chinese).

Some places have bogus charges, but I have honestly never been hit with bogus charges when moving out (lived in 3 different non-UR places). The only time I had to pay for anything was when a chair (being moved back and forth) had destroyed the flooring in an area. Even then, I got most of my deposit back. I think dealing with a bigger place is better - they honestly see it as a business rather than having to pay you money (which is what smaller places see it as). The other two places I didn't pay anything, and in one of them a cabinet handle had fallen off (the guy simply said that since everything else was fine, one handle was small and they would ignore it).

A cleaning charge before and after, unless explained in the lease, is completely bogus and I would simply refuse to pay it.
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mitsui



Joined: 10 Jun 2007
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Location: Kawasaki

PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2016 3:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds like you have been lucky.
In Kanagawa information is just in Japanese, which is why I said it is for people who have been here some time (they might be able to deal with the paperwork).
There are waiting lists and rules about pets.
I cannot even live in UR since I have two small dogs. The limit is one.

Plus sometimes the rent goes up. This can happen in Yokohama.
That is why one family I know just decided to move out.
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TokyoLiz



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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Location: Tokyo, Japan

PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2016 3:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is an agency that helps place English-speaking tenants in UR housing. People can pm me if they want that contact.
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