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What names have been cropping up re scam schools in Saudi?

 
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mrpeech



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 30, 2016 12:46 pm    Post subject: What names have been cropping up re scam schools in Saudi? Reply with quote

Hi all,

Just wanted to know if anyone had any recent/prior experience with phony schools in the Kingdom.
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nomad soul



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 30, 2016 1:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What exactly do you mean by scam schools? The majority of vocational colleges and universities in KSA are public institutions. There are plenty of privately-run, generic k-12 international schools serving KSA's diverse population, but faculty tend to mostly be non-westerners.

Be aware KSA has a tight sponsorship system in which the employer is indicated on the expat teacher's work/residence permit and entry visa. Ditto for business visit visas --- the sponsoring company is named on the visa. Plus, the visa process involves several government ministries starting at the employer's end. As such, that would certainly deter private entities from opening bogus schools.

If anything, there are sketchy/unethical contracting companies. However, the universities and institutes these companies place teachers at are legit.
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mrpeech



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PostPosted: Sun May 01, 2016 10:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I mean phony schools that exist only in name, set up to illicit monies from job seekers for jobs that don't exist
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sheikh radlinrol



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PostPosted: Sun May 01, 2016 11:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mrpeech wrote:
I mean phony schools that exist only in name, set up to illicit monies from job seekers for jobs that don't exist

Or even ELICIT monies from job seekers for jobs that don“t exist. Now, that would be an ILLICIT activity.
Anyway, the sages on these boards say NEVER hand over money to a recruiter.
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nomad soul



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PostPosted: Sun May 01, 2016 11:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mrpeech wrote:
I mean phony schools that exist only in name, set up to illicit monies from job seekers for jobs that don't exist

Nope. That's highly unlikely. Besides, illicitly eliciting fees from job applicants would be a stupid tactic given that all the other recruiters/employers don't ask for money. (It ain't China.)
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veiledsentiments



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PostPosted: Sun May 01, 2016 2:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This has been rather common for the UAE in the past 10 years, but there has been little report of such in Saudi.

And yes, the way to avoid getting scammed is to never pay agency fees or especially the usual visa scam where you are requested to send a "money order" to someone at a supposed ministry.

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RustyShackleford



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PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2016 4:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

To be fair, when I was hired for my job, I was advised just that - send a money order over to a travel agency with a kinda sketchy-looking website. However, they did indeed arrange my visa paperwork. Company was Atl-ntic Travel.

Use caution. Vouch for things whenever you can. Get a second and third opinion.
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nomad soul



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PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2016 5:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

RustyShackleford wrote:
To be fair, when I was hired for my job, I was advised just that - send a money order over to a travel agency with a kinda sketchy-looking website. However, they did indeed arrange my visa paperwork. Company was Atl-ntic Travel.

Use caution. Vouch for things whenever you can. Get a second and third opinion.

Rusty, they're one of many registered visa agencies listed on the Saudi Embassy's (US) website as authorized to use the government's online visa application system.
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