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NITI (KAPLAN/IIL) in Al Hasa
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waltgomez



Joined: 03 Jul 2014
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 10, 2016 11:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The latest ( hearsay) news is that some laid-off teachers were not told to go back home, but apparently, to stay at a hotel "to be reassigned".

They were allegedly not paid for the significant part of that idle stay. The hotel, probably, was paid for, though. It seems that over a month of time was wasted.

I hope they start treating people better.


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nomad soul



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2016 12:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gluttons for punishment.
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waltgomez



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2016 3:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NITI's management makes mistakes all the time. But they don't get fired or anything. They make big bucks and their positions seem to be solid.

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waltgomez



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2016 3:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nomad soul wrote:
Gluttons for punishment.


Hoping against hope, believing in the goodness of Man.
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ploughon



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 6:24 pm    Post subject: terrible place Reply with quote

This place is run like a prison, I’m not exaggerating. A bell goes before the class start time, and students have two minutes to get to class, or they are locked out and marked absent. Teachers have to confiscate their phones and lock them away in a cabinet at the front of the class.
Teachers then have to follow an exact lesson plan and not deviate from it, and will get in trouble if they forget to ask concept checking questions. The students meanwhile, will often be talking, playing on their Ipads and ignoring you. You will do your best to get them to listen and engage with the lesson, but of course you are to blame, not the students, for poor student behavior.
The best part is, every lesson is filmed and constantly watched on camera, by a ‘coordinator’ whose job it is to watch you until you do something wrong or they can find something to penalize you with, such as playing games on the Ipads they are provided with.

In my first week I was assigned to ‘co teach’ with other teachers. As soon as the lesson started, I was told to ‘teach the lesson’ without having seen the material to teach! So I sort of taught something on the spot from the book.

These teachers then had the audacity to report to management that I was ‘refusing to teach’. I told them that there was something called ‘lesson planning’ which most teachers do. I was then told ‘What do you need to plan for’?

I was terminated after two weeks, without reason, before I’d had chance to get used to the system.
This was early 2019, and judging from other posts, has been this way for a while. Accept a job offer at your own risk.
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sicklyman



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2019 5:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Let me also add that they blatantly stole materials from Saudi Aramco's curriculum to use with other companies' trainees. This was very much contrary to policy. When I asked management specifically about this, they denied it in a high level meeting even though at least one person at the table knew that I was aware of this and said nothing.

Later, when speaking to the QA manager, I asked him the same question and he admitted it freely, demanding to know who had told me they weren't using it. The place is a bundle of contradictions and, for the most part, a complete sham.
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Arenta



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 27, 2019 5:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"This place is run like a prison"

Awful place. Sounds as bad as TOP
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Makkah



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 09, 2019 8:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sicklyman wrote:
Let me also add that they blatantly stole materials from Saudi Aramco's curriculum to use with other companies' trainees. This was very much contrary to policy. When I asked management specifically about this, they denied it in a high level meeting even though at least one person at the table knew that I was aware of this and said nothing.

Later, when speaking to the QA manager, I asked him the same question and he admitted it freely, demanding to know who had told me they weren't using it. The place is a bundle of contradictions and, for the most part, a complete sham.


I heard from another manager that some short bald guy kind of lost his head a bit Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy
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AbeCross



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 01, 2020 12:07 pm    Post subject: Same place? Reply with quote

Is this thread also referring to International Institute of Languages (ARAMCO industrial college) in al-Hasa? If so, this place seems to have a lot of names.
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niti team leader



Joined: 10 Oct 2017
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 16, 2020 11:11 am    Post subject: same thing Reply with quote

same thing.

NITI provides the infrastructure

IIL provides the staff
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AbeCross



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 23, 2020 1:37 pm    Post subject: Not unusual Reply with quote

waltgomez wrote:
NITI's management makes mistakes all the time. But they don't get fired or anything. They make big bucks and their positions seem to be solid.


This ineptitude at the top seems quite typical for a number of EFL operations in KSA with bad reputations: Shabaka, ELS, and Vinnell—to name just a few.
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niti team leader



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 26, 2020 4:41 am    Post subject: Re: Not unusual Reply with quote

AbeCross wrote:
waltgomez wrote:
NITI's management makes mistakes all the time. But they don't get fired or anything. They make big bucks and their positions seem to be solid.


This ineptitude at the top seems quite typical for a number of EFL operations in KSA with bad reputations: Shabaka, ELS, and Vinnell—to name just a few.


To be fair they have improved their stance and performance.

Many teachers are much happier now
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