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gimpboy
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Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 6:14 pm Post subject: CELTA only for visa |
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I have been offered a job in Saudi Arabia and I have an unrelated degree. I have been told I can't use it to get a job as an English teacher as it needs to be related to the job. This was in Ireland. Now in London, they told me they have got work visas for teachers with just a CELTA. Has anyone on here got a work visa with just a CELTA? This has been said to me by 2 visa agencies. I don't want to spend a lot of money if it will be declined. The agencies who said this are Regents and Britannica. Also I think Scotts may say the same. |
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currentaffairs
Joined: 22 Aug 2012 Posts: 828
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Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 6:38 pm Post subject: |
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If you have a degree I wouldn't worry about it. They requested a notarised copy of my Trinity cert in addition to my degrees.. I would send everything in to keep them happy. |
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nomad soul

Joined: 31 Jan 2010 Posts: 11454 Location: The real world
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Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 7:02 pm Post subject: Re: CELTA only for visa |
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gimpboy wrote: |
I have been offered a job in Saudi Arabia and I have an unrelated degree.
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Has anyone on here got a work visa with just a CELTA? This has been said to me by 2 visa agencies. I don't want to spend a lot of money if it will be declined. The agencies who said this are Regents and Britannica. |
Recruiting agencies and visa agents are not the same thing --- apples-n-oranges.
Regardless, if you've officially been offered a job (i.e., are in receipt of a preliminary contract), your unrelated BA met the contracting company's particular requirements. As long as your degree didn't include any online coursework, it shouldn't be an issue in terms of passing muster for a work visa. |
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currentaffairs
Joined: 22 Aug 2012 Posts: 828
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Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 7:24 pm Post subject: Re: CELTA only for visa |
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nomad soul wrote: |
gimpboy wrote: |
I have been offered a job in Saudi Arabia and I have an unrelated degree.
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Has anyone on here got a work visa with just a CELTA? This has been said to me by 2 visa agencies. I don't want to spend a lot of money if it will be declined. The agencies who said this are Regents and Britannica. |
Recruiting agencies and visa agents are not the same thing --- apples-n-oranges.
Regardless, if you've officially been offered a job (i.e., are in receipt of a preliminary contract), your unrelated BA met the contracting company's particular requirements. As long as your degree didn't include any online coursework, it shouldn't be an issue in terms of passing muster for a work visa. |
In the UK, SACB has specifically asked for CELTA/Trinity/TESOL certs in addition to an unrelated degree regardless of the requirements of the employer. The OP should be fine, though. |
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plumpy nut
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Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 7:53 pm Post subject: |
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If money is a concern, which it should be, make sure that you have no online credits on your college transcripts. The idiot SACB will not attest your degree for a visa if there is any online credits whatsoever. Also make sure that your Registrar can or is willing to provide written documentation concerning the issue before spending any money on medical tests and other things for your visa. I don't know if you knew this or not, because neither the embassy or any agents tell you this before you begin the visa process. |
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gimpboy
Joined: 09 Jun 2016 Posts: 2
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Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 8:59 pm Post subject: |
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I don't think there's any online credits. But it's just that I got an email from the embassy in Ireland and they said your degree must be related to the job you're doing but over in England, the agents say you just need the CELTA. I don't want to spend money doing a medical either. It's free to attest the certificates though so can anyone tell me, if I get the certificates attested alright, will that give me the thumbs up to go ahead with the work visa at that point or could it still be declined? it won't cost me anything then if I can be sure at that point. |
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nomad soul

Joined: 31 Jan 2010 Posts: 11454 Location: The real world
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Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 9:28 pm Post subject: |
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gimpboy wrote: |
I don't think there's any online credits. But it's just that I got an email from the embassy in Ireland and they said your degree must be related to the job you're doing but over in England, the agents say you just need the CELTA.
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It's free to attest the certificates though so can anyone tell me, if I get the certificates attested alright, will that give me the thumbs up to go ahead with the work visa at that point or could it still be declined? it won't cost me anything then if I can be sure at that point. |
A BA is required for the work visa --- a CELTA alone won't cut it.
What specifically is your degree level and major? There are plenty of teachers with unrelated BAs/MAs entering KSA on employment visas, so obviously there's something else about your degree that's an issue. Regardless, there's no harm in submitting your documentation and credentials to the SACB before proceeding with the other visa requirements. |
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veiledsentiments

Joined: 20 Feb 2003 Posts: 17644 Location: USA
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Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 10:16 pm Post subject: |
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Oh let me take a wild guess... I bet the unrelated degree relates to... the piano!!
Anyone want to place a bet on that?
Hello? Moderators? LOL
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scot47

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Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2016 3:19 pm Post subject: |
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Piano ? Is that him again ? |
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johnslat

Joined: 21 Jan 2003 Posts: 13859 Location: Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
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bahrainteech
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Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2016 5:42 pm Post subject: |
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But no one has answered the OPs question. he said two visa agencies in London, Regents and Brittanica told him they have got work visas with people with just a CELTA. NS says you need a BA and CELTA. who is right? The visa agents in London or NS? Plus the OP PMed me and said his diploma has been attested by the SACB and got the stamp on it. So does this mean they approve it? Why don't people answer the OP's question instead of just kicking him off the forum all the time. The poor bloke just wants to know the truth and has been given different information.
Anyone out here had a work visa with just a CELtA then? |
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nomad soul

Joined: 31 Jan 2010 Posts: 11454 Location: The real world
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Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2016 6:05 pm Post subject: |
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bahrainteech wrote: |
But no one has answered the OPs question. he said two visa agencies in London, Regents and Brittanica told him they have got work visas with people with just a CELTA. NS says you need a BA and CELTA. who is right? The visa agents in London or NS? Plus the OP PMed me and said his diploma has been attested by the SACB and got the stamp on it. So does this mean they approve it? Why don't people answer the OP's question instead of just kicking him off the forum all the time. The poor bloke just wants to know the truth and has been given different information.
Anyone out here had a work visa with just a CELtA then? |
Uh, how could 'he' have PM'd you when neither of you have the requisite five posts needed to send messages? In fact, this is your very first post (under a new alias).
Seriously, you need, at minimum, a bachelor's degree for a work visa if you intend to legally teach in KSA. So send in your "BA" along with your CELTA to the SACB and get both attested. If your "BA" gets rejected, then apply for jobs in countries where a degree isn't required. This is a no brainer.
Frankly, you should be directing these concerns to the employer since you claim they've extended an offer (i.e., have sent you a contract). |
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bahrainteech
Joined: 03 Jun 2016 Posts: 6
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Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2016 6:57 pm Post subject: |
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[quote="nomad soul"]
bahrainteech wrote: |
So send in your "BA" along with your CELTA to the SACB and get both attested. If your "BA" gets rejected, then apply for jobs in countries where a degree isn't required. This is a no brainer. |
There's no need for the quotes in BA because apparently the OP's university has TODAY written a letter specifically saying that his diploma is equivalent to a BACHELOR's degree. so why all this cuffuffle about BAs and equivalent NS to this poor old bloke all the time. don't you believe in equivalent qualifications or something? Or do you just go by the almighty BA? ps no need for 5 posts before PMing.  |
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bahrainteech
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Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2016 7:09 pm Post subject: |
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I forgot to say the OP says his "BA" has indeed been attested and stamped in Arabic by the SACB. does this mean the OP's "BA" has been approved then or can it still be rejected? |
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plumpy nut
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Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2016 7:36 pm Post subject: |
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bahrainteech wrote: |
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Anyone out here had a work visa with just a CELtA then? |
Yes, a lot of people have, with just an unrelated bachelor's and a 120 hr. TEFL certificate. That was in the United States. |
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