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[Leno]

Dear All

After the interview, a PJO and a receipt of contract of employment, and employment visa ( expenses have been paid for visa applicaiton and all med expenses, police cert and attestation of degree docs etc, by the applicant before travelling to Saudi Arabia),
after all have been done according to the recruiter's instructions,

why is it that the reply from the recruiter ( UK based company) says,
"We cancelled the job offer and visa, due to unsatisfactory references".

Shoud not they have checked references, before making an offer, visa, instead of pushing someone to apply for visa first?
Why did the recruiter refuse to share the responses from the referees?

What should one do in that situation? Reimbursement of the expenses from the recruiter or the visa issuer ( the saudi university)?

[plumpy nut]

The only thing you can do is post who the company is. I am sorry to hear that you were defrauded by the Saudis. Every prospective teacher to Saudi Arabia needs to understand what the Saudis are like: unethical to everyone. It's bizarre that they would accept you and then have you spend a lot of money on a visa, and then revoke it after checking your references later. They're slow to understand anything (morals), lazy, they lie, cheat and steal, and it's a fact. Good riddance when Saudi Arabia fails.

[nomad soul]

[Leno]

It was not my experience. but someone had this unfortunate experience.

I have read similar sitautions from others on this website like " I didnt hear anything from the recruiter or the university".

It may be that many are unprofessional, inconsiderate, and irresponsible, even they may hold "a doctorate degree from USA".

But, UK company was just as bad, and no one had an arabic name, all UK based UK nationals.

[nomad soul]

Okay...

If the scenario above wasn't about you, don't worry about it since no one, including yourself, is privy to the details.

[Leno]

I posted it, so that new applicants will have an idea what to ask for, before applying for employment visa, and in case of the cancelation regardless of anyone's fault, where for the job applicant to get the expenses reimbursed.

In my opinion, entering KSA under government visit visa is the best bet for UNi teaching jobs. It is leagl and official.

Things are not cheap, everything costs and after investing time and money.. all became a waste for him, because he simply thought that at the stage of green light from the UK company for visa application, the offer was confirmed.

He had provided all positive reference letters from the previous employers after contacting them for updated contact info, with copies of their own ref letters.
He was even shocked to learn about the ex bosses's negative comments, via UK company. the UK company refused to share the info and ignored
his request for a copy of their negative comments.
I still think that it is wrong to provide a good looking ref letter than, prviding a negative comment.
Libel suit can be filed against the dishonest person, it could be UK company or the ref giver.

[nomad soul]

[nellyp]

Seems to me that references should be checked before offering a job. Perhaps it is only SA that is irresponsible enough to do this, and not care about others.

A reference that is not up to spec could as easily be an excuse as genuine, and we know neither way