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JerkyBoy



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 11, 2016 8:57 am    Post subject: Breaking Z Reply with quote

You have to get Z to get in the country in most cases

What happens if you take a bum job to get Z and then get offered one you want 3 months later

If you break the contract while on Z, do you get blacklisted or what?
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SH_Panda



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 11, 2016 9:39 am    Post subject: Re: Breaking Z Reply with quote

JerkyBoy wrote:
You have to get Z to get in the country in most cases

What happens if you take a bum job to get Z and then get offered one you want 3 months later

If you break the contract while on Z, do you get blacklisted or what?


Well, you just won't be able to move the res permit and FEC to the new job, as you've broken your contract. You'd have to go back home and start again, thereby defeating the point of the whole endeavour.
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LarssonCrew



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 11, 2016 10:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did this in my first job in China because they treated me awfully.

I just bailed and went to work at a uni. Since I wasn't physically taken to the police station my working visa was still valid and I worked at the other place on that original visa. Then, because it was a university with much guanxi, I had no problems getting a legit visa with the uni the next term
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wangdaning



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 11, 2016 11:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It really depends. To get it to transfer properly you need a release and recommendation letter from the first employer for the second employer to covert your res permit over to them.

There is usually a breach clause in the contract, and the clout of your second employer, as Larson mentioned, also comes into play.

Fact is, you wont know until the situation is over.
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Non Sequitur



Joined: 23 May 2010
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 11, 2016 6:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LarssonCrew wrote:
I did this in my first job in China because they treated me awfully.

I just bailed and went to work at a uni. Since I wasn't physically taken to the police station my working visa was still valid and I worked at the other place on that original visa. Then, because it was a university with much guanxi, I had no problems getting a legit visa with the uni the next term


This mirrors my experience.
My new uni was a nationally ranked outfit and the old one a provincial.
I don't know the details but it seems the new place just leaned on a few people.
Worked out well and I spent 3 semesters at the new place.
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Shanghai Noon



Joined: 18 Aug 2013
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 11, 2016 11:22 pm    Post subject: Re: Breaking Z Reply with quote

JerkyBoy wrote:
You have to get Z to get in the country in most cases

What happens if you take a bum job to get Z and then get offered one you want 3 months later

If you break the contract while on Z, do you get blacklisted or what?


You don't get blacklisted but you might be on the hook for damages. You might have to repay all of the expenses the school incurred to hire you. These should be minimal if you were already in China, but could be quite prohibitive if they had to fly you in from somewhere else. My school makes us repay the cost of the visa, medical insurance and flights.
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adventious



Joined: 23 Nov 2015
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 12, 2016 12:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The notion of a blacklist is similar to the illogic of
    X are lazy; X are stealin' all our jerbs!
    China's bureaucracies are hopelessly backwards and disorganized; China maintains and enforces a blacklist!
And there are legitimate grievances (e.g., misrepresentation or exploitation), but this OP's premise is a caprice defined by bum and one you want. Professionally, this is treated contractually by probationary periods that aren't particularly generous to Party B, but that's the nature of positions with lower qualifications.

How would anyone confirm the existence of a blacklist? It's a little Santa Clausy.
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