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[tyroleanhat]

One poster mentioned something about a situation where an application in the FEB can be locked. Not sure if I understood this correctly.

The current state of affairs with the uni I first applied is: I signed the contract, the FEB was too picky so it didn't work out in time. FAO wrote I should wait one more semester. (the whole, unpleasant story here http://forums.eslcafe.com/job/viewtopic.php?t=114896 )

So I immediately contacted another uni in another province (who's offer I turned down some months before) and it looks they would still take me in this semester. But does this mean now I can't apply for them, because my application is locked? If this is true (cross-provincial application data, new rule as well?) what's my best bet now - can my first employer un-lock me in the FEB, how good are my chances to do so and how quickly can it be done?

[The bear]

[jimpellow]

I am pretty sure you are referring to a remark I made recently. It is in reference to a national computer system that China rolled out to centralize applications. That or it is a revamped version of the Foreign Expert Certificate Management System. They obviously are using some type of primary key (at least now) that is likely composed of the applicant's country of passport issuance along with the passport number. When a first application is initiated, that primary key combination is "locked", preventing further applications with the same combination.

It has popped up before on the board but remains somewhat mysterious. The best information I found out about it was another board. It was written by a foreign FAO who seemed quite with it. She had discovered applicants who were already going through the process at another school and were hedging their bets so to say.

Some aspects I do not know or remember about it...

1. It is meant to be national, but has every jurisdiction implemented it as of today?

2. Is the first school notified if a second application is attempted?

3. Can/will the first school have the application cancelled and under what circumstances will they do so? My gut feeling is there is nothing in it for the first school, and would prefer to have the applicant tied to them. This is the PRC Chinese we are talking about.

I have expressed my opinion before that this is another good attempt gone bad.

I feel for schools that attempt to recruit in good faith and have a no-show as a teacher has accepted another offer. It also now costs schools quite a lot in terms of time and money to get the applicant to the point where the z-visa is granted.

At the same time, having a monopoly over a teacher's ability to come to China opens the door to all kinds of abuse from the school as well.

[portnoy58]

Interesting - I'm in this position and it might have been my recent post in this forum that's being referred to.

I've been told by a FAO in a school that any school can update the FEB system but that it only locks at the point at which the FEC is actually issued, so up to that point it's a race between the schools.

I'll let you know what happens if I get into a race!

[tyroleanhat]

[tyroleanhat]

Also, i thought the FEC you receive in China, AFTER you already have your visa at hand.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isnt the order supposed to be:
work permit -> Z visa -> FEC -> RP

In which case I would be safe, because it's still a long way to go to even get my visa.

[The bear]

[jimpellow]

"I've been told by a FAO in a school that any school can update the FEB system but that it only locks at the po