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Saudi Aramco Readies For IPO

 
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cnthaiksarok



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2016 4:16 am    Post subject: Saudi Aramco Readies For IPO Reply with quote

Saudi Aramco is preparing its financials for its initial public offering, but the oil company's debut likely won't be on a New York exchange.

Saudi Aramco will likely be listed on an Asian exchange, either Tokyo or Hong Kong, with a dual listing in Riyadh as Asian exchanges have looser disclosure requirements, according to sources in a Financial Times article Thursday.

While Aramco is still mulling listings in New York or London, prospects for a U.S. exchange are lower, due in part to a new law that allows families of 9/11 victims to sue the Saudi government, the FT added.

The state-run oil giant could be valued at over $2 trillion and beat out Apple (AAPL) as the world's largest listed company. The sale of part of the massive company is part of the Saudi Vision 2030 plan debuted in April that would reduce Saudi Arabia's dependence on oil for its economy. The Kingdom's finances are being squeezed by lower oil prices and last month Riyadh cut government workers' salaries for the first time.

more here: http://www.investors.com/news/saudi-aramco-readies-for-ipo-but-likely-wont-be-on-u-s-exchange/
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2016 1:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I certainly wouldn't invest my retirement funds in a non-transparent company like this...

VS
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2016 2:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

More money for palaces and trips to the US and Dubai, and to prop up salaries for the useless Saudi employees. Saudi Arabia is a black hole that gobbles up oil revenue that is increasingly no longer available.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 13, 2016 7:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Would a successful ARAMCO IPO help put salaries back to the older levels (even if it be for just a few years) or is that too optimistic for this forum?

I mean, if ARAMCO is valued at a $2 Trillion dollar company, and they plan to sell 5%, then surely an influx of $100 Billion dollars would have some fraction reach the MOE that would then allocate a portion to teacher salaries?

They didn't shy away from giving good salaries in the past when they had the money. Why believe they won't do it again?

(Here's hoping for some rational counter-arguments)
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 14, 2016 12:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would definitely not count on that. First they have to dig themselves out of the huge budgetary hole that they have dug. Next they will be putting back the funds that they have been pulling from their investment portfolios to pay expenses the last couple years. Next on the list will be all the royal family, followed by the high wasta families, shortfalls over the last few years. Then they will raise the pay and benefits of the rest of the Saudis on the payroll.

And now that they have figured out that they can get teachers for a pittance, why should they raise the pay?

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 14, 2016 8:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TravelingMuslim wrote:
Would a successful ARAMCO IPO help put salaries back to the older levels (even if it be for just a few years) or is that too optimistic for this forum?

I mean, if ARAMCO is valued at a $2 Trillion dollar company, and they plan to sell 5%, then surely an influx of $100 Billion dollars would have some fraction reach the MOE that would then allocate a portion to teacher salaries?

They didn't shy away from giving good salaries in the past when they had the money. Why believe they won't do it again?

(Here's hoping for some rational counter-arguments)


You are way too optimistic!

First, as VS said, they need to dig themselves out of a very big hole. That will take a while.

Then, the shock and fear of that hole will need to fade.

Then, they will have to evaluate their priorities. King Abdullah prioritised education. That was seen as his 'thing'. But each new King needs to put his stamp on something else in order to create his own legacy so the old projects and priorities lapse or become less significant.

High school English is becoming more important and PYP programs are closing down. There will be an overall reduction in the need for teachers over the next few years.

I don't think that Saudi has ever really cared for quality and the recent cut backs have proved that people are willing to work for less. Why pay moreif you don't have to? Saudi will pay the market rate which just so happens to be dropping.

It is no longer the land of milk and honey for tefl teachers. Sad
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