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Fatboy · Joined: 23 Aug 2010 Posts: 66

Any news? Any recent information?

Salary?

Working hours?

Overall job satisfaction?

Any information is appreciated.
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Fatboy · Joined: 23 Aug 2010 Posts: 66

I guess the answer is no. Rolling Eyes

nomad soul · Joined: 31 Jan 2010 Posts: 11454 Location: The real world

PI will be recruiting at TESOL Arabia this month. So if you're attending TA, ask others in the job fair area--it's easy to find those in the know.

candykisk · Joined: 19 Apr 2011 Posts: 29

They just closed hiring I believe on April 1, 2015. But you can check the site yourself:

http://www.pi.ac.ae/careers.php (link doesn't open on google chrome)

I was going to apply, but I am not sure I want to teach English for Specific Purposes.

Chuma · Joined: 21 May 2013 Posts: 72

Could anyone provide current salary information for the ABP Lecturer position at the Petroleum Institute?

Thanks!

danshengou · Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2016 1:01 pm Post subject:

If you meet their minimum qualifications, which is a related MA and 3 years post-MA tertiary experience (although you would only be teaching foundation students for them) and some prior ME experience, you could expect something similar to what the main employers in the UAE pay, so probably about 14-15k dirhams + housing and airfare (25k combined monthly package is in the acceptable starting range in Abu Dhabi for a single person or couple - rents are high). If you have considerably more than the minimum requirements you might get a monthly package as high as 28k. But be aware that for this you will most likely have to adhere to a strict dress code and 40-hour on-campus requirement. And again, you won't be teaching actual freshman. Paid leave will probably be around 8 weeks plus local holidays.

Gulezar · Joined: 19 Jun 2007 Posts: 483

Rumors are rampant about a merger of PI with other institutes in the the UAE. This could mean adjustments in status, location and salary, and it could impact exit requirements for the students. Watch this space.

danshengou · Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2016 4:53 am Post subject: Re: Merger

dragonpiwo · Joined: 04 Mar 2013 Posts: 1650 Location: Berlin

The low price of oil has lead to a lot of restructuring. All the opco's like ADGAS, ADCO, GASCO have training operations for their trainees and employees. These training programmes consist of technical subjects (process, instrumentation, electrical and mechanical and Technical English). I know English teachers at some of these companies and some have been laid off or are on short notice to be laid off. It doesn't make sense as the technical content, taught in English is way too specialized for what your run of the mill tech English teachers are teaching elsewhere in the country. There is usually a huge gap between the English the guys need and what is actually being taught. Furthermore, there are very few English teachers who know about gas process. I do, as I've been in the oil and gas industry for 17 years. The point is that even if they do centralize the English training, there will still be a huge gap between what the trainees learn and the language and content they need to understand the technical trainers. I know this from experience. Hiring MA qualified linguistics/high school people to teach tech English to OG operations staff is ridiculous if said teachers don't know a sieve tray from a bubble cap and simply trawl through materials which are already made like Oil and Gas 1, which they don't know how to exploit.

Gulezar · Joined: 19 Jun 2007 Posts: 483

If the UAE continues at the previous rate of growth, they will need citizens who are bilingual in the the energy sector, as well as researchers, aerospace scientists, professors, teachers, Mawaqif meter men, police officers and military personal. Yet, I would assume that a basic grasp of English would be required of OG candidates before they progress to their specialization.

I don't see why a centralized sifting of candidates based on their Math and Language skills seems so outrageous. When I was a high school student, I knew that my SAT scores would get me into certain schools with a full scholarship but not into others.

veiledsentiments · Joined: 20 Feb 2003 Posts: 17644 Location: USA

Gulezar · Joined: 19 Jun 2007 Posts: 483

Surely there must be universities that teach an Arabic curriculum where any student who is not proficient in English could study. I'm sure that Sheihk Zayed did not promise every student an education in an English medium university.

veiledsentiments · Joined: 20 Feb 2003 Posts: 17644 Location: USA

The offer was for the public schools and the national university (and eventually HCT and ZU). As far as I know, there are no Arabic language based universities in the Gulf... all English medium.

The current re-organization of public schools and cutting the Foundation programs are partially to slowly break this promise. BTW... a few years back, there were students who had been 5-10 years in the Foundation program at UAEU, and still couldn't pass.

VS
(PS... Qatar has been the first of the Gulf countries to start teaching some of the common majors in Arabic at QU. Thus far, none of the others have followed suit. Perhaps in KSA?)

Gulezar · Joined: 19 Jun 2007 Posts: 483

dragonpiwo · Joined: 04 Mar 2013 Posts: 1650 Location: Berlin

The oil companies pick up many of those who didn't do too well in school. The trainees we teach get paid in the high twenty-thousands for coming to our classes. Wink

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Lack of will is the biggest barrier to learning I've seen here, there and everywhere in the Gulf. It is directly linked to having no incentives. Even if they fail, they'll be ok.

It's the state generosity that's dumbing down education.

And still they complain!