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ldn
Joined: 03 Sep 2016 Posts: 2
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Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2016 11:20 pm Post subject: SBC King Saud University |
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Anyone coming over or already here in Riyadh? Would be great to hear from you, your experiences...
ksu teachers, anything we need to know coming into the new academic year? |
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I-forgot
Joined: 28 Jun 2015 Posts: 153 Location: Riyadh
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Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2016 5:52 am Post subject: |
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Management restructuring, many experienced teachers have left, insufficient teacher numbers. You WILL be working unpaid overtime. |
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Grendal

Joined: 13 Aug 2009 Posts: 861 Location: Lurking in the depths of the Faisaliah Tower underground parking.
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Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2016 12:15 pm Post subject: |
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Heavily micro managed system geared towards paper pushers not English acquisition. There will be two formal lesson observations a year that they need to see to check their boxes to hand in to their supervisors. The rest of the year doesn't even come close to the lesson plans you did for these observations. CELTA lesson plans are preferred but after it's over you can throw them out the window because these students need more specific lesson planning geared towards their learning styles (which is close to nothing).
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Al-Ikwan
Joined: 07 Jun 2016 Posts: 18
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Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2016 2:42 pm Post subject: Re: SBC King Saud University |
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ldn wrote: |
Anyone coming over or already here in Riyadh? Would be great to hear from you, your experiences...
ksu teachers, anything we need to know coming into the new academic year? |
As already mentioned, yes they are seriously understaffed. SBC are the new recruitment company who have come in and straight away reduced pay packages dramatically by almost 4k SAR which is why they are understaffed.
This company is now bringing teachers over on Business visas, which means you can't bring family over and you do not have any employee rights.
Also be warned, once in Saudi the KSU management may interview you and if them deem your qualifications not meeting requirements or you fail the interview they will send you back to home country. |
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plumpy nut
Joined: 12 Mar 2011 Posts: 1652
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Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2016 2:56 pm Post subject: |
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Another good example of why it's great Saudi Arabia is going down the tubes. Like I said before the more and more decrepit Saudi Arabia becomes, the haughtier and more immoral they become. No willingness to admit to anything to themselves. It's all due to some defect in teachers that they have to identify and remove. |
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ldn
Joined: 03 Sep 2016 Posts: 2
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Posted: Sun Sep 11, 2016 6:54 am Post subject: |
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if you have over 3 years experience and a related degree I urge you to negotiate! A related masters even more so! I found it successful and closer to the older packages.
A lot of people blindly accept. Always ask for more (reasonably), you never know! |
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fhq
Joined: 21 Apr 2014 Posts: 14
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Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2016 5:38 am Post subject: |
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ldn wrote: |
if you have over 3 years experience and a related degree I urge you to negotiate! A related masters even more so! I found it successful and closer to the older packages.
A lot of people blindly accept. Always ask for more (reasonably), you never know! |
You found it successful with SBC? |
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plumpy nut
Joined: 12 Mar 2011 Posts: 1652
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Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2016 1:43 pm Post subject: |
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I always thought that King Saud University was a somewhat no-nonsense university, at least more than most. It's starting to look like nice salaries in Saudi Arabia are a crap shoot. It's better to go somewhere else to get screwed around. There are some countries where they won't just summarily fire you. |
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I-forgot
Joined: 28 Jun 2015 Posts: 153 Location: Riyadh
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Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2016 10:07 am Post subject: |
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Just been told that KSU is short 150 English teachers.
SBC is too slow to bring people on board and it does not look good for their contract next year.
EdEx filled its (reduced) numbers on the men's side and are now trying to charge teachers to transfer their iqamas to SBC. They are illegally trying to charge half of their end of service benefits. |
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plumpy nut
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Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2016 9:22 am Post subject: |
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Maybe they could have used some of the teachers they fired after all. Is there no ability to plan in Saudi Arabia? Of course everybody knows there isn't.  |
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Grendal

Joined: 13 Aug 2009 Posts: 861 Location: Lurking in the depths of the Faisaliah Tower underground parking.
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Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 9:07 pm Post subject: |
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A friend of mine working for al hussan (at KSU) now has been called into the office to be informed of a pay cut. They told him that they could get a BA holder to replace him. My friend has a PhD in Eng Lit. They said that they are not willing to pay the amount he is getting under his current contract agreement and that if he doesn't comply to the lower salary that his services will not be needed anymore.
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ginger123
Joined: 25 Jun 2016 Posts: 33 Location: By the beach
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Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2017 4:42 pm Post subject: |
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Grendal wrote: |
A friend of mine working for al hussan (at KSU) now has been called into the office to be informed of a pay cut. They told him that they could get a BA holder to replace him. My friend has a PhD in Eng Lit. They said that they are not willing to pay the amount he is getting under his current contract agreement and that if he doesn't comply to the lower salary that his services will not be needed anymore.
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That's really sad! When I was there last year, an American colleague predicted exactly what u said! Amazing! |
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scot47

Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Posts: 15343
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Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2017 6:01 pm Post subject: |
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The reality is that they do not NEED teachers with doctorates in English Literature. The ability to teach Low-level Intermediate and Beginners would be more appropriate. An ability to motivate students who have switched off is also a plus. |
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