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chinesecanadian2004
Joined: 21 Jun 2004
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Location: Canada
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 Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2004 7:21 pm Post subject: emails & bogus offers |
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hi all.
i'm wondering if you can give me some insight towards these questions
1) should i be skeptical of job postings that have a different domain than the school itself. i'm referring to yahoo's, hotmails, and these odd ones which i don't know which differ from the contact info on the website.
2) how many bogus offers are there? i understand that this site charges schools to post which deters the so called bogus offers. so how common is it for fake postings on sites that don't charge? what is to be gained from this. how far does it go? if you sign a contract & it is not from the school, are you legally bound to who ever set you up? |
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anthyp
Joined: 16 Apr 2004
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Location: Chicago, IL USA
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| Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2004 4:02 am Post subject: |
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Welcome to TEFL!
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| 1) should i be skeptical of job postings that have a different domain than the school itself. |
Well, you should approach any job offer with caution, but I don't think this issue is a particular cause for concern.
The ads could be from recruiters, who don't work for the school. Or the contact person from the school may have multiple email addresses, you never know.
It's more important that the information in those emails makes sense, that you feel comfortable with what they're saying, and that their responses to your questions aren't sketchy or evasive.
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| 2) so how common is it for fake postings on sites that don't charge? |
I really can't answer this. But it's something to be wary of.
I think these bogus ads are just scams to get you to either send them money or vital information about yourself, such as your passport # and photos, that kind of thing.
They can use these to make fake IDs or "steal your identity!" So yes, you have to be careful about sending this kind of information over the Internet!
I know that in China, you don't sign contracts with recruiters - you sign with the school you are employed at. This is the only contract that matters, and the leaders from the school should all be present at the signing. I don't know how it works in other countries!
Again, just be careful and research everything as much as possible! Good luck! |
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chinesecanadian2004
Joined: 21 Jun 2004
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Location: Canada
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thanks for the reply & the your welcoming. i've browsed this site many times before i registered & found that the community is in fact a sharp crowd.
as you mentioned, id theft is on my mind a lot. not a happy time when you find out that you are a victim. i think CDN passports have the highest rate of forgery in the world.
whatever 'common sense' is, it's hard to pin whether or not some of these ppl are legit. i figured it would be a easy to begin with but when i thought about it a bit more, communicating electronically is very tricky....particularly when it comes down to a legally binding agreement.
i've spent a number of days trying to make sure everything is in place & that i'm not being overly cautious. i just found that schools w/o websites & that post on free sites send a small chill down my back.
any personal experiences with bogus postings & advice is still appreciated.
thanks !  |
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Roger
Joined: 19 Jan 2003
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Free websites or websites that give recruiters free access invariably attract bogus offers from those recruiters.
Dave's board was free until a year ago; if ypu placed your job wanted ad there you would get dozens of offers. The same still goes on elsewhere - and those making these offers are unregistered go-betweens, usually former or current English teachers, some FAO's as well, who happen to have found out how the two sides meet.
So, imagine you are a FAO, sitting in your university office, making 5000 a month for a 160 hour work month (while you could make the same amount of money as a teacher who puts in a fourth of this am..), and you get told by your director that the school "urgently" needs a foreign face; you try to convince him or her that they must advertise abroad, but they don't know how to do that, so all falls on your weak shoulders.
Then you see those teacher websites, and you think: "Why can't I make a cut by acting as a recruiter for other schools? WHy do I have to do the recruiting for free for our school?" |
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