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Mike S.



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 17, 2016 3:59 pm    Post subject: Hainan Island Reply with quote

When I visited China, I especially enjoyed Hainan Island. Is there any chance of teaching there?
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Non Sequitur



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 17, 2016 11:43 pm    Post subject: Re: Hainan Island Reply with quote

Mike S. wrote:
When I visited China, I especially enjoyed Hainan Island. Is there any chance of teaching there?


The university is in Haikou (sp) which is the provincial cap and a bit away from the resort area at Sanya.
I visited the U on a recce for a job alternative to the frigid north.
I gained the impression of quite a few elderly Americans on staff who had no intention of moving on. I wasn't offered anything.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 19, 2016 3:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was wondering about this as well at one time: what would it be like to be associated with either Hainan University or Hainan Normal University in Haikou? It seems like it could be a pleasant-enough life being on the island. The Hawai'i of China?

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Non Sequitur



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 19, 2016 6:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I visited in Feb on the way back to Dalian.
The weather was cool but I guess v hot in summer. But that's when you are likely to be on holiday elsewhere.
The uni buildings were that airy tropic style with breezeways etc.
If you could find reasonable accommodation in Sanya that's where one would head on weekends.
Haikou seemed a little drab compared to Dalian. I don't think tourists even go in there, but head straight to Sanya.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 19, 2016 2:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I went to Hainan, actually, just Sanya, for a holiday once. The wife and I had planned to go to Szechuan but earthquake activity had put paid to that.

So, Sanya. To be honest it was like every other city I've ever visited in China but with the disadvantage of being full of people that thought that tourists bleed money and were only there to throw it around. Imagine some dystopian theme park where aliens had spent the day in Florida and even then had managed to misinterpret everything they'd seen through the lens of their own disconnected cultural experience. One of the 'attractions' was a ride on a speedboat, actually a small boat with a small outboard engine, seats about five people, that left from the 2m wide strip of sand that was laughingly called a beach, and took you on a tour of a very industrial port area and a housing development for billionaires, for the princely sum of 120 kuai. Then there was the 'famous' seafood market where five or six people would surround you and scream in your face in Chinese that their seafood was the best, despite being exactly the same same as every other stalls seafood. Or you could go on a diving tour with a fake PADI certified dive operator (check them out on the PADI website and they don't exist) to dive with sub standard equipment and look at nothing very interesting.

Even if Hainan were China's Hawaii, living and working in a place soon takes the sheen off it and exposes the day to day underbelly which leaves you with a place that would be nice to be in if only it weren't full of *beep* tourists.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 19, 2016 11:15 pm    Post subject: astrotrain Reply with quote

Hainan Island is actually where my family roots originate from. Last year I was in Nanning teaching Econ. Really wanted to travel and visit Hainan but went to Guilin instead. Guilin was awesome, so many things to do, water rafting , cave exploration etc. I digress, teaching in Hainan would be so great for me but never hear of any positions on the Net just like Guangzhou. Guess these areas are so full of foreigners, schools don't need to advertise to fill positions. Doubt there would be any IGCSE or AP positions there.

I really wonder if the locals are inclined or rich enough for someone to setup an English training school like so many I saw in Gaungxi in apartment flats.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 19, 2016 11:40 pm    Post subject: Re: astrotrain Reply with quote

astrotrain wrote:
Hainan Island is actually where my family roots originate from. Last year I was in Nanning teaching Econ. Really wanted to travel and visit Hainan but went to Guilin instead. Guilin was awesome, so many things to do, water rafting , cave exploration etc. I digress, teaching in Hainan would be so great for me but never hear of any positions on the Net just like Guangzhou. Guess these areas are so full of foreigners, schools don't need to advertise to fill positions. Doubt there would be any IGCSE or AP positions there.

I really wonder if the locals are inclined or rich enough for someone to setup an English training school like so many I saw in Gaungxi in apartment flats.


I visited the U on my own initiative. There was no advertised vacancy.
As mentioned earlier there seemed to be a lot of older FTs around and I guess it's a decent retirement gig.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 20, 2016 12:16 am    Post subject: Re: astrotrain Reply with quote

Non Sequitur wrote:
astrotrain wrote:
Hainan Island is actually where my family roots originate from. Last year I was in Nanning teaching Econ. Really wanted to travel and visit Hainan but went to Guilin instead. Guilin was awesome, so many things to do, water rafting , cave exploration etc. I digress, teaching in Hainan would be so great for me but never hear of any positions on the Net just like Guangzhou. Guess these areas are so full of foreigners, schools don't need to advertise to fill positions. Doubt there would be any IGCSE or AP positions there.

I really wonder if the locals are inclined or rich enough for someone to setup an English training school like so many I saw in Gaungxi in apartment flats.


I visited the U on my own initiative. There was no advertised vacancy.
As mentioned earlier there seemed to be a lot of older FTs around and I guess it's a decent retirement gig.


Nice to see you again N.S. Been a while, you still enjoying your retirement?

Yeah, I gave up on Hainan a while ago, read years ago about an ex teacher there who stated such, new positions never available. A lot of them have Masters, PHDs etc, the place is basically a Florida for semi retired proffs.

I have pressing needs now mainly from G.F stress to get back to Southern China, but so few positions are advertised. Mainly I just been searching IG and AP Economic jobs but it seems second semesters openings are few and far between.

Don't really want to do the tourist visa route although have a place to stay but it seems kinda risky as people have said the Hong Kong trip to acquire Z visa is a no go?
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Non Sequitur



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 20, 2016 1:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm writing a book on my China exp. Due out in hard copy in Jan.
I take the point about it being a retirement locale. Thinking back the older US lady I met at U of H could well have been Jewish. She looked a bit like Jerry Seinfeld's mother.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 20, 2016 4:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Non Sequitur wrote:
I'm writing a book on my China exp. Due out in hard copy in Jan.
I take the point about it being a retirement locale. Thinking back the older US lady I met at U of H could well have been Jewish. She looked a bit like Jerry Seinfeld's mother.
Best

NS


Was her name Victoria? Or something like that. I ask because I interviewed with a university in Haikou. This was a few years ago but I'll always remember it. I got a strange vibe from them. The main thing I remember was that they asked me if I was religious or a Christian. The interviewers said they had 'experiences' or something like that and apologized for asking.

I answered that I wasn't religious and the interview ended shortly after. It's a small world as I later met another English teacher who also interviewed with the same woman and he also mentioned the interview. The other strange thing was that during the interview and emails everything seemed to be going very well but after the interview I heard nothing. Not even a 'sorry, you weren't successful' email.
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Non Sequitur



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 20, 2016 4:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Too far back to remember and I wasn't interviewed. But given your comment I wonder about a clique-type situation. The Chinese FAO guy I spoke to was vapid and totally blah.
Just the type who would defer to a pushy FT or one with an agenda.
'Experiences': were they talking about 'out of body' ones Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 2016 9:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

doogsville wrote:
I went to Hainan, actually, just Sanya, for a holiday once. The wife and I had planned to go to Szechuan but earthquake activity had put paid to that.

So, Sanya. To be honest it was like every other city I've ever visited in China but with the disadvantage of being full of people that thought that tourists bleed money and were only there to throw it around. Imagine some dystopian theme park where aliens had spent the day in Florida and even then had managed to misinterpret everything they'd seen through the lens of their own disconnected cultural experience. One of the 'attractions' was a ride on a speedboat, actually a small boat with a small outboard engine, seats about five people, that left from the 2m wide strip of sand that was laughingly called a beach, and took you on a tour of a very industrial port area and a housing development for billionaires, for the princely sum of 120 kuai. Then there was the 'famous' seafood market where five or six people would surround you and scream in your face in Chinese that their seafood was the best, despite being exactly the same same as every other stalls seafood. Or you could go on a diving tour with a fake PADI certified dive operator (check them out on the PADI website and they don't exist) to dive with sub standard equipment and look at nothing very interesting.

Even if Hainan were China's Hawaii, living and working in a place soon takes the sheen off it and exposes the day to day underbelly which leaves you with a place that would be nice to be in if only it weren't full of *beep* tourists.


Sounds like Xiamen. Reasonably nice, by Chinese standards, as an island city - 10 years ago.

Hell on earth now.

I scarpered.
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Nouran



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2016 6:17 pm    Post subject: Hainan Reply with quote

I worked in Hainan about 5 years ago. I worked for a company called STAA who had a contract with Hainan Airlines. The students (student pilots) were very motivated. I still keep in touch with them. We all stayed on the Hainan Airlines training site, which was quite nice. Outside the training area there were local areas and expensive areas (touristy). I found the experience to be one of the best I had working overseas. Not sure about housing since the company placed me in dorms on base of Hainan Airlines. I would recommend looking at the Airlines.
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Non Sequitur



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2016 7:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did you have textbook?
eg English for Aviation
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