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[lcanupp1964]

Hello all,

I wanted to share some hard-earned wisdom with the new/old teachers that may be thinking about working in KSA.

AD: Open Gates Recruitment is looking for 3 ESL native teachers for Mohammed Bin Naif Academy in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia for April 1, 2017 start date.
--A degree in English IS A MUST!!!
--Experience with Defense Language Institute's American Langauge Course.
--Salary package of SR 16,500.
--Will be brought on business visa and then later transfer to iqama.
--Single status only.
--Accommodation/transportation provided.
--Yearly monthly vacation
--Plane ticket to and from country of origin.


This old trick again? So... I contacted them and went though the application process to see if they had a "special power", or a high-ranking prince that could turn water into wine - opps... I mean turn a business visa into an Iqama.

They even said that - when I busted them on the fact that I would never be able to convert a business visa into an Iqama - I would be able to get a five-year business visa. ha, ha, ho, ho... It is too laugh (Daffy Duck). This Willy Wonka Golden Ticket is not going to be issued to me, so in mid-sentence, they said that I was correct about that as well (see email they sent below). So far, two lies before ones gets on the plane. After our conversation, I got another email:

"Good afternoon. Thanks for your email. Your CV came through Open Gates Recruitment and I am copying Mr. D on my response to you. This is a start up project we are trying to fill that is why the thought of issuing a business visa through Bahrain for teachers who could start on/before April 1st. If this has not been made clear to you by the Recruitment Agent, I apologize.
This project will eventually expand on June and we are to bring teachers on Employment Visas. We do have work visas for you to know. I already emailed Mr. D to modify his ad. You are correct, no Business Visa can be converted to Iqama. And I believe Mr. D is aware of that too because he used to work in KSA."

When caught, just blame the other person; another old and tired trick they use in KSA when they can't get enough Iqamas for the amount of teachers they need.

The email sates, "We do have work visas for you to know". OK... Give me one. No answer. Just more double talk.

I'm hopeful the other vets of "The Sandbox" will chime in regarding what one can't do while on a business visa, but I would recommend staying away from this school and their group of pimps looking for suckers. You still have to pay taxes that you earn (at least as the U.S. is certain - read yesterday on a govt website) while working overseas on a Busines Visa - keep that in mind as well, my friends. Am I jaded? LOL

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[lcanupp1964]

Sorry VS... I met, "Country". I was typing at a million key-strokes a second. I edited the post. Thanks for keeping me on my toes.

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LOL... I wonder how many are not reporting the income... using a broad reading of 'days out of the US'. To be honest, the income from most "business visa" jobs is so low that doubt that it would be worth the IRS time to audit the visa status.

VS

[siologen]

[veiledsentiments]

He was referring to US income taxes. "county" was a typo.

It was meant as a warning that various countries may consider this income taxable unlike income from those with a legal residence/work visa.

VS

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[lcanupp1964]

I "implore" you to read all the info on the internet regarding this subject. Gee, trying to help and I get somebody imploring me to give a lazy person... oh, never mind just read and learn something. In fact, I implore you to do so. Took me 3 min. to find a ton of information, but I picked this link (not the "me head hurts kind of gov't site like the IRS") due to the fact that I don't wish to cause your head to hurt with big words. I've only been in KSA for about 9 years total.

"...never been true". You said that. Sounds like sour grapes, or a pimp-recruiter telling more BS.

http://life-in-saudiarabia.blogspot.com/2014/10/working-on-iqama-vs-business-visa.html

It should be clear enough, tough guy

Maybe you are smoking too much of your user name, Mister/Miss Hash. Now it's your turn to say something. I have an ego as well, but I don't return volleys with people that have huge holes in their rackets. You are empty, cold air.

I won't respond anymore and I wonder why I did. My mistake. People private message me asking me why I stopped. Little-brained people is one of the main reasons. And... you're taking advice from a complete stranger. Wow. I quit. If people want to private message me, I will still try to help. I took the time to help three people via private message today - wish you could have done the same, my friend. My rep speaks (and writes) for itself. Good luck.

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[Mr. Kalgukshi]

Civil discussion is most welcome here. Such is not the case with less than civil discussion that gets threads locked or deleted. In this case, it is the former.