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MDSloth
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 Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 5:34 pm Post subject: Z Visa Medical question - avoid being nuked twice |
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Hey,
I've heard that to avoid being x-rayed and having blood taken twice you can;
1. Bring original xrays and blood tests to China
2. Have the medical form legalized at the Consulate before going
Could anyone shed some more light on this? |
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Non Sequitur
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| Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 6:13 pm Post subject: |
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I've only tried it with x-rays not blood tests.
No reason why it shouldn't work. Get the lab and/or your Dr to slap all his stamps on the paper. |
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The bear
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| Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2017 12:57 am Post subject: |
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| Non Sequitur wrote: |
I've only tried it with x-rays not blood tests.
No reason why it shouldn't work. Get the lab and/or your Dr to slap all his stamps on the paper. |
Come on, this is China. Red tape is convoluted, bloated, and loved here. There's absolutely no guarantees of this.
I would avoid the extra cost as most likely you'll still have it done when you get to China.
When I moved jobs to a difference province in China the new office didn't recognize the health check I had done the previous province 1 month prior. Had the red stamp, signatures, and the little book that goes with it. |
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OhBudPowellWhereArtThou
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| Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2017 1:08 am Post subject: |
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It has never worked for me. Once, I brought an X-ray with me. Nobody looked at it. Another time, I brought my liver test and full results of my blood test with me (the one that is required in order to get a Z visa from America. That is the Q-2 form). The med tech at the Health Dept. stuck a knitting needle up my arm anyway. They were nice enough to give me THE COTTON HEAD OF A Q-TIP to stop the bleeding. The Q-tip didn't cover the hole. It actually fit inside the hole left by the needle!
Worse, I got nuked at least twice at the local Chinese Public Health. When I objected to what I was sure would be a third, I put my shirt on and walked out.
So, you've got NS' answer and you've got my answers. We're both honest people. (Well, NS is, I think).
Since This Is China, you may extrapolate:
1. Yes. Absolutely.
2. Are you kidding? You can't do that. They'll laugh you right out of the building (which might be better than submitting to any tests as long as you get your residence permit).
3. Maybe.
4. It's possible. One of my friends knows someone whose girlfriend's boyfriend did it.
5. Who the h3ll knows?
6. It won't hurt. (As Non Sequitur said).
Good luck. Bring a tourniquet with you when you get re-examined at Public Health. |
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Non Sequitur
Joined: 23 May 2010
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The sonographer at Qingdao clinic smeared me with gel - just the stomach 
Gave me a single tissue to clean myself up.
If you have your xray films (and they take no space) at least you're in with a chance of avoiding another zap.
Agree with Bud. China is totally random and requests even a day apart may get different responses. |
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OhBudPowellWhereArtThou
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| Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2017 12:11 pm Post subject: |
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| Non Sequitur wrote: |
The sonographer at Qingdao clinic smeared me with gel - just the stomach
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Did they think you might be preggo or were they checking your liver? You never know what they're thinking.
Once, I had the EKG done twice while a dozen other patients stood and watched. They seemed to be arriving at some sort of consensus. |
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Non Sequitur
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| Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2017 8:19 pm Post subject: |
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| Liver I guess. Came back with the 'fatty' issue. |
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OhBudPowellWhereArtThou
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| Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2017 4:08 pm Post subject: |
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| Non Sequitur wrote: |
| Liver I guess. Came back with the 'fatty' issue. |
That can be detected with a blood test. I got the same comment from my stateside doctor. Contrary to common belief, it isn't a result of consumption of alcohol. My doctor explained that the body stores fat in different places.
Most of my fat is in my head. |
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Non Sequitur
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| Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2017 6:21 pm Post subject: |
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| Didn't know a blood test could detect location of visceral fat. |
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OhBudPowellWhereArtThou
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| Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 2:19 am Post subject: |
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| Non Sequitur wrote: |
| Didn't know a blood test could detect location of visceral fat. |
One way to detect it is through abnormal levels of certain transaminases in a blood sample.*
https://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/06/25/ask-well-diagnosing-fatty-liver/?_r=0
* I'm not a doctor, but I do read Wikipedia and do internet searches to appear smarter and more knowledgeable than I really am. |
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Non Sequitur
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Wonder what the sonograph was for then?
All that lubing for what? |
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Tazz
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| Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 3:51 am Post subject: |
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| Like so much else Chinese work related the medical depends on the province. And it's ever changing......All the incoming teachers at Uni's in Guangxi last academic year were not required to take medicals at all, providing they had taken one, outside China, within the previous 6 months. My own, complete with blood test, x-ray, etc was done in a government hospital in the Gulf for about $80, and it sufficed. Clarify, with the FAO what the procedure is in that province before arrival. If at all possible, given the pittance paid by many Uni employers in China-try to avoid paying a serious wedge of cash for medical exams that will simply be ignored once you are here.... |
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Non Sequitur
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| Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 7:15 am Post subject: |
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| Tazz wrote: |
| Like so much else Chinese work related the medical depends on the province. And it's ever changing......All the incoming teachers at Uni's in Guangxi last academic year were not required to take medicals at all, providing they had taken one, outside China, within the previous 6 months. My own, complete with blood test, x-ray, etc was done in a government hospital in the Gulf for about $80, and it sufficed. Clarify, with the FAO what the procedure is in that province before arrival. If at all possible, given the pittance paid by many Uni employers in China-try to avoid paying a serious wedge of cash for medical exams that will simply be ignored once you are here.... |
I need to provide an in-country (ie home) medical with my visa application. I live in a public health location, so cost not a serious issue. If you have insurance system, coverage would depend on policy but is it likely 'medical for travel' would be excluded from cover? |
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OhBudPowellWhereArtThou
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| Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 8:54 pm Post subject: |
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| Non Sequitur wrote: |
Wonder what the sonograph was for then?
All that lubing for what? |
It's for detecting fatty liver too. I think that it's used because the sonogram is faster than the blood test.
But then again, maybe the nurse just liked you.  |
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Non Sequitur
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Bud she was built like the proverbial brick s**t house.
If she had suggested a h***y e****g my response would have been:
'You mean I can leave?' |
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