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Teaching English in China as a non native citizen?

 
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Ryks



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 2:05 pm    Post subject: Teaching English in China as a non native citizen? Reply with quote

I have a few questions regarding this and was hoping someone could help on here as I don't seem to be able to find the right answers.

Basically, I am a German citizen, but my first language is English AND German. I have lived in English speaking countries most of my life and have also completed my college and university education in England.

I've just completed my teaching qualification and hold a CELTA. I'm now looking to apply for teaching jobs in China; primarily at international schools. However, I'm having issues as most schools and teaching agencies are replying and saying they cannot take me as I am not a native English speaker. So I'm a bit confused as technically I am I just don't hold the passport. Does this issue revolve around a prejudice, or possibly it costs to much to get a visa from another country OR is it literally impossible due to legal matters? And if so why does this kind of law exist?

Anyway, bit of a long post, but would really appreciate any help! Thanks!
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nomad soul



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 4:23 pm    Post subject: Re: Teaching English in China as a non native citizen? Reply with quote

Ryks wrote:
I have lived in English speaking countries most of my life and have also completed my college and university education in England.

I've just completed my teaching qualification and hold a CELTA.

What is your degree major in? What teaching qualification do you hold?
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Ryks



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 4:50 pm    Post subject: Re: Teaching English in China as a non native citizen? Reply with quote

nomad soul wrote:
Ryks wrote:
I have lived in English speaking countries most of my life and have also completed my college and university education in England.

I've just completed my teaching qualification and hold a CELTA.

What is your degree major in? What teaching qualification do you hold?



My degree is in German and European Studies. My PGCE is in German and Spanish. I also have a years experience teaching ESL in Hong Kong.
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nomad soul



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 5:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Teaching English in China as a non native citizen? Reply with quote

Ryks wrote:
My degree is in German and European Studies. My PGCE is in German and Spanish.

It's obvious why you're finding it difficult to secure a TEFL spot. You might be more successful landing a job as a German teacher.
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Marcos Cisneros



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 5:49 pm    Post subject: My Humble Opinion Reply with quote

Dear Ryks,

The issue will turn on many things. Let me give you my input.

If you held a British passport, albeit born in Germany, and had the same degree which you hold, that would fly.

If you held a German passport and an advanced degree in English, it would still be doable. The Chinese have high regards for the Germans. I have seen this time and time again.

Given, however, that you hold a German passport and have a degree that is not relevant to English, the search will be downright difficult, unless you do not mind slogging through the backwaters of Henan or Inner Mongolia.

But the previous poster had a very solid idea ... the better universities in China, the top tier ones, do recruit teachers of German. I have this myself. Fudan, Beijing Da, Tsinghua, Harbin Institute of Engineering, Sun Yat Sen, etc. You just need to find the right person to open the door.

Any questions, feel free to PM me.

All the best to you.

M C
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Non Sequitur



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 5:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Sorry for the humongous link but here are some more.
Just watch Dalian as I think it is now located out at Lushun i.e. boonies and not in the central Dalian city as when I was in DL.
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Ryks



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 31, 2017 11:28 am    Post subject: Re: Teaching English in China as a non native citizen? Reply with quote

nomad soul wrote:
Ryks wrote:
My degree is in German and European Studies. My PGCE is in German and Spanish.

It's obvious why you're finding it difficult to secure a TEFL spot. You might be more successful landing a job as a German teacher.


Trust me I've tried but the market for that isn't amazing Sad But It doesn't sound like that's the issue. I mean I'm a native English speaker and I've taught ESL for a year. I'm assuming it's most likely the passport...was hoping there would be a way around it :/
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