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bj80
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 Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 1:58 pm Post subject: Just Curious, Where Do ESL Mercenaries Go For the Money? |
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Hi Guys,
I recently started a community and am looking for a place to slave for 3-12 months and save as much money as possible.
In my travels, I've lived in places like Nepal with no electricity, hot water, and internet.
I've lived in boring places like Saudi, or dangerous places like Libya. No problem with me. I can even use a gun if necessary to defend myself, even though that's never happened.
I am lucky enough to have a great woman in my life so I don't need to go to a country with women.
I am very adaptable and can teach up to 50-60 classes a week consistently, teach 12 hour days seven days a week, as long as I get my 8 hours of continuous sleep.
Where are the best places to slave away and earn some money to save?
1. I'm guessing oil rigs in Libya, Kurdistan, or offshore would be the best place?
2. What are the exact qualifications necessary?
3. Anyone can feel free to PM me if they'd rather. |
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nomad soul
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What are your qualifications (education, TEFL cert, experience)? All you've given is that you can use a gun and live in primitive conditions. 
Anyway, Kurdistan doesn't make the list for high-paying jobs. Oil gigs in other countries are lackluster due to political instability and/or economic slump. Your best bet are the numerous US and UK defense contractors for the Saudi military. Head to the KSA forum for info and advice. |
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bj80
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| Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 3:49 pm Post subject: |
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To me, I have a CELTA and about five years of experience in five countries.
But, I would not mind getting a CELTA or a Master's in TESOL, if there were lucrative jobs waiting for me.
Any opinions, besides heading to the Saudi forum? |
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suphanburi
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| Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 3:53 pm Post subject: |
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| bj80 wrote: |
| Any opinions, besides heading to the Saudi forum? |
Get certified as a teacher. High school certified STEM teachers are in huge demand globally. The salaries are 5x what you would earn in EFL plus there are the generous benefits packages that usually come with them.
Avoid countries like the USA where teachers are treated like sh1t and the salaries are lower than what an EFL teacher makes in Asia.
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bj80
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Thanks. What certifications are good for STEM?
PGCE? Master's Degree? |
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nomad soul
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| Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 4:29 pm Post subject: |
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To me, I have a CELTA and about five years of experience in five countries.
But, I would not mind getting a CELTA or a Master's in TESOL, if there were lucrative jobs waiting for me. |
I believe you mean Delta.
If you're looking to "slave away" for a few months up to a year in order to rack up some savings, why would you consider first spending money and time on additional credentials? Plus, for years you've been posting about getting a Delta but never followed through.
Sounds like you're curious but not serious about moving forward in some sort of career. |
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bj80
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| Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 5:09 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for the honest opinion.
To me, I just don't want to waste money on credentials that may not be worth it. I just had such a bad time in undergrad that I felt it didn't do much.
I guess a DELTA could be worth it, as long as there were jobs that paid $5K USD or more.
I'd be happy to follow through if there was some payoff. Is there? |
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scot47
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| Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 5:44 pm Post subject: |
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| There is no such place. |
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spiral78
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| Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 5:52 pm Post subject: |
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| Just getting the qualification is only going to get you halfway to a good job. You also need to exercise some iniative ... and get a bit lucky. |
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AGoodStory
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| Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 6:05 pm Post subject: |
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Bj80,
I can't tell if you want a 3-12 month job that will allow you to pile up some money (as in the OP,) or if you are interested in which qualifications will help you to maximize your earnings over a number of years (subsequent posts.)
Regards,
AGS
Edited: to correct confusing typo.
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nomad soul
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| Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 8:14 pm Post subject: |
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| bj80 wrote: |
To me, I have a CELTA and about five years of experience in five countries.
But, I would not mind getting a CELTA or a Master's in TESOL, if there were lucrative jobs waiting for me.
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To me, I just don't want to waste money on credentials that may not be worth it. I just had such a bad time in undergrad that I felt it didn't do much.
I guess a DELTA could be worth it, as long as there were jobs that paid $5K USD or more.
I'd be happy to follow through if there was some payoff. Is there? |
Jobs that pay $5K or more per month would require a commitment to further education and professional development on your part. Over the past few years, you've asked about the value of an MA TESOL, South African PGCE, California teaching license, and the Delta. 
Surely after five years you have some idea what you want to do. Otherwise, maybe teaching or education isn't your thing. |
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LarssonCrew
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You could save $5000 a month in China if you're willing to work hard. If you're white and from a native country.
Public school job working 20 hours a week will pay $2000 plus accom, then you can work weekends 10 hours a day x $50 a class to make $1000 per weekend.
You'll be tired but you could easily make even more, depends how many hours you're willing to work. |
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Kalkstein
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| Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 8:54 am Post subject: |
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| LarssonCrew wrote: |
You could save $5000 a month in China if you're willing to work hard. If you're white and from a native country.
Public school job working 20 hours a week will pay $2000 plus accom, then you can work weekends 10 hours a day x $50 a class to make $1000 per weekend.
You'll be tired but you could easily make even more, depends how many hours you're willing to work. |
That's extremely generous. First of all getting $50 a class isn't that simple of a task and to get it continuously over the course of a weekend (20 different time periods) is very, very hard thing to do.
Even to get half of that it may take him years of effort and he's already stated he only wants to work for 3-12 months. Assuming he manages to achieve 3500 USD/month after a year, if he then quits he's going to lose all his student base and he won't be able to get them back. Even if he comes back a year later nobody pays for unreliable tutors, especially not at that price - they'll flock to cheaper priced more reliable competitors who can teach their kid over many years. The only people I know who have had long term success doing this are those who take their work serious (which takes a lot of effort and money) and are stable.
He also has to deal with things like cancellations, holidays etc..
His best bet is to get qualified to teach science then sign a 1 year contract for an international school. They tend to pay 25,000-30,000 pre tax as a starting salary. |
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LarssonCrew
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| $50 is 275 RMB an hour, on other specific Shanghai or Beijing websites there are endless endless training schools prepared to pay that. So he could load up on as much as he wanted. |
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Jmbf
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| Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 11:06 am Post subject: |
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| LarssonCrew wrote: |
You could save $5000 a month in China if you're willing to work hard. If you're white and from a native country.
Public school job working 20 hours a week will pay $2000 plus accom, then you can work weekends 10 hours a day x $50 a class to make $1000 per weekend.
You'll be tired but you could easily make even more, depends how many hours you're willing to work. |
Possible but not within the timeframe the OP is talking about (3-12 months) unless he gets very lucky.
P.S. USD 50 is approx RMB 330 (not RMB 275) |
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