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Son Thach
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 Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2017 2:30 am Post subject: Current pay rates in HCMC. |
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Hi all,
I am sure there are significant variations, but on average, amongst reputable schools in HCMC, what would be regarded as a fair hourly rate for a new but qualified native speaker teacher?
THANKS. |
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skarper
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Anywhere between 10 and 30 dollars an hour.
I am sure there are people getting 10 usd an hour and who are glad of it and people getting 30and maybe more.
As MIS has it - it depends.
A newly minted certed newbie? Probably 15-20 usd an hour. |
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TRH
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Location: Hawaii
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| I believe from reading your other posts that you are overseas Vietnamese. A Viet Kieu US citizen teacher once told me that his pay was "less than yours, but more than the Filipinos." I expect that put him at $16-18. He went on to start an immigration consulting business and left teaching. Once you get some time on the ground, you too may see other opportunities. |
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Mattingly
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| mark_in_saigon wrote: |
If there was a bell to be rung signifying the passing of the golden age of westerners teaching English in VN, I think that moment has come and gone. There are other forces that will also eventually change the landscape, such as online teaching, which could allow very good teachers to give presentations to large numbers of students while chipping away at the position of the not so serious teachers who have been able to eke out a living.
I do not see these changes substantially leading to a degradation of the favorable cost of living here, and the fun time we can have just soaking up the sanuk. But I would less and less plan on getting paid for my amazing ability to jabber away in our native language, while cleverly throwing balls around the room or whatever it is we do these days. You can drag it out as long as it goes on, but don't forget your opportunity costs. If you are wasting your best money making years dodging floods while going from one school to another, you may rub the pollution from your eyes and find that you have missed out on a chance to invest in your own country while you could still buy at least SOMEthing over there. Another 10 years, I wonder if any property in any decent location will be affordable to normal wage earners. |
Definitely.
Wise words. |
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sigmoid
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| Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 7:29 am Post subject: |
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Great input from all.
It should also be mentioned that, unlike just five or so years ago, HCMC and Ha Noi are no longer your only options for work.
I'd advise people who are considering VN to look into the possibility of living in any of the smaller cities
Population pressure strains Ho Chi Minh City roads to the limit
https://static.tuoitrenews.vn/ttnew/r/2017/10/23/transport-infrastructure-1508729174.mp4 |
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Prof.Gringo
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Location: Dang Cong San Viet Nam Quang Vinh Muon Nam!
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Long-term is a major problem in VN. Quality of life issues for sure, traffic is getting worse, not better and more autos on the road everyday with tariffs being lifted.
Tell me about the beautiful world class parks & green spaces in HCMC & Hanoi again...  |
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thrulensdark
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| Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2017 6:01 pm Post subject: |
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| mark_in_saigon wrote: |
| If you are wasting your best money making years dodging floods while going from one school to another, you may rub the pollution from your eyes and find that you have missed out on a chance to invest in your own country while you could still buy at least SOMEthing over there. Another 10 years, I wonder if any property in any decent location will be affordable to normal wage earners. |
There is that trade-off, but in the end I still think you will have the better story to tell, Mark. |
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Mr. Kalgukshi
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SimonW1986
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Apologies was not aware of that word limit.
In summary as I think it is important what I said was.
1. Still good to start out in ESL in Vietnam.
2. Try to work for one company and in only 1 or 2 centers.
3. More and More good VN teachers.
4. This is mostly in the big cities.
5. lots of developing smaller cities, jobs are popping up more and more there.
6. still at least 10 years left of the jobs for experienced people. |
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nomad soul
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MOD EDIT
As for "teach the teacher," isn't the Peace Corps going to handle that initiative? How much of an impact will that have on pay rates over the next 5 or so years? |
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TRH
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| As for "teach the teacher," isn't the Peace Corps going to handle that initiative? How much of an impact will that have on pay rates over the next 5 or so years? |
Yes. "You heard it here first" as newspeople used to say but remember that was a John Kerry/Obama initiative. The US State Dept which funds the Peace Corps has proposed 30% cuts to its own budget under the current administration. Cuts to the Peace Corps could be even deeper. At any rate it can't have any more negative impact than backpackers do now. |
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