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shasha123
Joined: 28 Aug 2017 Posts: 26
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Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2017 8:00 am Post subject: A non-native's teaching journey... |
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Hello
As a non-native TEFL-er wannabe, which countries should I focus on in terms of employment?
Salary wise, breaking even is fine, as I'm more interested in immersing myself in foreign cultures. I have a (non-related) undergraduate degree and CELTA.
I'd appreciate any advice/ suggestions. Thank you |
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bograt
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Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2017 8:28 am Post subject: |
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If you have experience I'd say apply for the British Council in countries where they don't have local laws that discriminate against non-native teachers. E.g. Hong Kong. The BC likes to show how diverse it is when given the chance so you might have an edge. |
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nomad soul
Joined: 31 Jan 2010 Posts: 11454 Location: The real world
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Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2017 8:34 am Post subject: Re: A non-native's teaching journey... |
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What's your nationality? Also, do you have any teaching experience? |
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spiral78
Joined: 05 Apr 2004 Posts: 11534 Location: On a Short Leash
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Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2017 8:38 am Post subject: |
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As a non-native TEFL-er wannabe, which countries should I focus on in terms of employment? |
The easiest answer is 'where you can get a legal work permit.' This is often more closely related to your country of origin than to your qualifications. Where are you from? |
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shasha123
Joined: 28 Aug 2017 Posts: 26
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Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2017 2:36 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for the suggestion Bograt
Unfortunately, I have no experience yet.
Hi Nomad Soul
No teaching experience yet. I'm from Malaysia.
Hi Spiral78
Thank you for your feedbacK. Yes, I suppose I should start looking up info on work permits. |
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workingnomad
Joined: 26 Sep 2005 Posts: 106 Location: SE Asia
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Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 6:51 am Post subject: |
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I'd guess you will find it easier in Malaysia itself.
Outside of there you are in competition with native speakers and cheap Filipinos who'll undercut you. The latter might also be true in Malaysia due to the large number there. |
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suphanburi
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Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 11:56 am Post subject: |
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shasha123 wrote: |
Thanks for the suggestion Bograt
Unfortunately, I have no experience yet.
Hi Nomad Soul
No teaching experience yet. I'm from Malaysia.
Hi Spiral78
Thank you for your feedbacK. Yes, I suppose I should start looking up info on work permits. |
If you sound Singaporean and have a decent TOEIC score then Thailand is an option - especially outside and north of Bangkok.
You can get a visa and work permit in Thailand. You will need a valid TOEIC test (IELTS and TOEFL are also accepted), your degree, academic transcripts and police clearance. With no experience you will be starting at about 20k baht/month (about 2500 ringgit) and no extra benefits.
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shasha123
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Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 6:34 am Post subject: |
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Hi Suphanburi,
Noted. Thank you for your feedback |
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bluething
Joined: 13 Jun 2017 Posts: 13 Location: Europe
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Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2017 2:13 pm Post subject: |
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If Sasha doesn't mind my derailing of his topic, I'd ask the same question. If he minds I may consider starting a new topic.
This is my 15th year as a teacher, I'm Romanian.
I've taught Ss from 5 -62 years of age, I've taught Literature, Phonetics, History of US/UK, Culture and Civilisation besides EFL. I'm also a teacher of Spanish. I have a professional development scholarship from The University of Oregon. I know it's easy for me to get a job in China and Turkey. What about other places? |
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shasha123
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Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2017 3:46 pm Post subject: |
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Hi Bluething
Sure, go ahead. It's relevant to the topic |
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suphanburi
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Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2017 3:55 pm Post subject: |
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And the answer is similar. Any place that can legally hire you will also likely treat you in a similar fashion
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They will hire you (a white faced European) at a slightly higher rate than a brown skinned NNES because they cannot find a NES teacher and you will do (you look like one) until one comes along. Your job security will be as short lived.
Racism and bias are alive, well, and legal in most of East and South East Asia.
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nomad soul
Joined: 31 Jan 2010 Posts: 11454 Location: The real world
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Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2017 4:26 pm Post subject: |
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bluething wrote: |
This is my 15th year as a teacher, I'm Romanian.
I've taught Ss from 5 -62 years of age, I've taught Literature, Phonetics, History of US/UK, Culture and Civilisation besides EFL. I'm also a teacher of Spanish. I have a professional development scholarship from The University of Oregon. I know it's easy for me to get a job in China and Turkey. What about other places? |
This topic has been discussed within the past 6 months in this forum. See Non-native English speaker - what are my options in Asia and (Non native) Newbie wants to teach abroad ! Advice needed. |
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