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Getting Tax receipts (public university jobs)

 
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eihpos



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 14, 2018 5:54 am    Post subject: Getting Tax receipts (public university jobs) Reply with quote

I work in a public uni, and do not get payslips. This was strange to me at first, but apparently it is quite normal!

I was wondering if any others in public universities have managed to secure tax receipts from their local tax office (for money transfers)?

Thanks!
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OhBudPowellWhereArtThou



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 14, 2018 9:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is still a problem at some public universities and colleges. I don't know about private enterprises. You could try to pay your taxes yourself, but more than likely, your FAO/boss won't give you any statements to submit.

This is a power game. If you don't pay income taxes, you can't change currency, and you can't transfer money out of the country, even though most SAFEA contracts specifically state that you can convert up to 70% of your income. You are at the mercy of Chinese friends.

I can't imagine what advantage a school could derive from not paying an FT's income taxes unless someone is playing with the books.
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Elicit



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 14, 2018 10:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Worth a visit to the tax office unless uni has confirmed nothing paid. Just take passport. Nothing else was required for me. If you’re not on their records then tax not paid. If they give you a statement you can ask your uni to basically confirm (copy) the statement before a trip to the bank.

No tax office statement for me would then equal the Chinese friends option or a trip to one of my favourite places in China... an international departure lounge.
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OhBudPowellWhereArtThou



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 14, 2018 5:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Elicit wrote:
Worth a visit to the tax office unless uni has confirmed nothing paid. Just take passport. Nothing else was required for me. If you’re not on their records then tax not paid. If they give you a statement you can ask your uni to basically confirm (copy) the statement before a trip to the bank.

No tax office statement for me would then equal the Chinese friends option or a trip to one of my favourite places in China... an international departure lounge.


I'm wondering: is it the responsibility of the FT to submit his own tax, and are those whose FAO's remit their taxes doing so as a favor to the FT?

If it is encumbent upon the FT to remit, where does he get the forms? Bimbo FAO's have no forms and (in my own experience) will not issue pay statements. The answer that I have gotten is that FTs are considered temporary workers, therefore, the university doesn't have to remit income tax.

And then what happens if taxes aren't paid?
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Elicit



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 14, 2018 10:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The temporary worker model that some universities claim excludes tax being paid may be understandable from a tax office’s point of view. When collecting my statement from a tax office, the most recent months were not listed. If tax is paid quarterly or less frequently even, then paying tax on a FT’s salary for only a one year contract may seem excessive to all those involved barring the FT who wishes to remit money back home.

I don’t really keep up with the public school recruiting ads, but I must admit that tax has never been alluded to in any I have seen.
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talentedcrayon



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 6:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My university claimed to be paying my taxes. They deducted a small portion of my salary every month.

At the end of the year we had a massive falling out. I didn’t want to stay so my boss threatened to phone the police on me. Because of this, I went from being skeptical of everything he said, to oughtright not believing a word that came out of his mouth.

I started demanding they prove to me they were really forwarding the money to the government. They we’re unable to provide any documentation, or even tell me what my tax number was.

If you are paying “tax” at your university, it is going straight into someone’ pocket. You should insist from the very beginning that you will pay taxes yourself and that you will provide them with documentation to prove you did.

Another trick my boss tried (and failed) was to get me to sign 10 monthly salary slips, then he claimed he only needed to pay me for 9 months. He told me the 2000元 travel allowance was my vacation pay. I know that’s total BS, because I’ve been in China for 3 years and this is my third university. You are supposed to get paid for 10 months. My contract said nothing about not receiving a salary during the vacation.

Why did he need the extra slip? Because that’s 8000 he can get from the accounting office, claim he is giving to me, but actually just pocket for himself.

In addition to this I believe he was trying to get me to give him money... I have bizarre texts from him where he alluded to me giving him a % of my earnings otherwise he’s going to get me into trouble with the PSB. None of it is direct though. He’s very cryptic in his wording. I believe he wanted money from any part time work I do, or anything to do with my business back in Canada. Before I got a job with him I asked if I was allowed to teach my own students... otherwise I told them there was no way I would work for them for 8000/month. They agreed. Obviously once you arrive they want to change the deal.

Some of these people are total losers. It’s why I decided just to get out of China for now.
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