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Stuka
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nimadecaomei
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I am triggered by Chinese privilege.  |
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jimpellow
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I appreciate such articles, and I admittedly only skimmed this one. Yet it sort of confirmed what I was expecting. The writer confused statistics to make a point.
I truly believe that most Chinese are returning home as they do not in fact go to prestigious universities, but rather non-competitive ones which market to them for the revenue, and then allow them to cheat and Chinglish their way through to a degree. I think employers abroad are wising up to this, and a more restrictive work visa environment is not allowing them to sneak in. |
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Non Sequitur
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| A Chinese employer will recognise a less than optimum Chinese university. Less alert to the dodgy foreign equivalent? |
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rioux
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| A high school diploma (even less) is all that is really needed to teach ESL in China. |
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jimpellow
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| A Chinese employer will recognize a less than optimum Chinese university. Less alert to the dodgy foreign equivalent? |
Haha. Good point. I think outside of some of the top firms in the big cities, a "big boss" can not discern between a grad from Amherst and one from University of Alabama Agricultural Tech. I think they see that the graduates don't really add any special value, likely because most have been pushed through the program, and the boss is unwilling to listen to them anyways.
I think a lot of Chinese graduates have discovered how little actual prestige there is in graduating from a foreign university. I really feel bad for the middle class parents of such graduates. They burn through their life savings for some crappy Chinese run prep program, and subsequently college, for their child. And then the child returns who is in reality rarely is able to provide for them in their retirement.
I though this game would have been uncovered years ago, but I forget the inability of Mainland Chinese to see the obvious.
I think this shows the spin of the article. Does anybody here find it easier in reality to work in China now compared to in the past?
"The country is also hoping to attract increasing numbers of foreign graduates to Chinese shores, and in 2017 reformed its visa programme to allow Chinese companies to more easily hire foreign graduates on work visas."
I would concede that for a small percentage of these "sea turtles" (namely those who are aggressive, truly talented and opportunistic) China offers some great opportunities. |
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theoriginalprankster
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| Words of wisdom Jim! |
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