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camdearlove



Joined: 12 Jan 2005
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Location: Canada

PostPosted: Sun Jan 16, 2005 7:51 pm    Post subject: Suggestions on schools in Poland Reply with quote

I'm a Canadian university student graduating in a few months and I'm looking for a teaching position in Europe. I'm interested in going to Poland. Any information on this goal would help. Are there any good recruiters? I noticed a warning against Millenium. Any more to look out for? Any schools that might be interested in taking a Canadian citizen? Any idea on the money I can make? (I'm not going for the money in particular, but I do have a large student debt that I need to start looking after.) If you could point me in the right direction, it would help a lot. Thanks in advance.
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gregoryfromcali



Joined: 25 Feb 2005
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 8:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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something amazing. Can't beat this deal. www.MastersInPoland.com


SPAM! SPAM! SPAM!
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cezarek



Joined: 29 Aug 2005
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 10:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

gregoryfromcali wrote:
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something amazing. Can't beat this deal. www.MastersInPoland.com


SPAM! SPAM! SPAM!


I agree. Can we have the spammer blocked?
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gregoryfromcali



Joined: 25 Feb 2005
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 12:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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If you could point me in the right direction, it would help a lot. Thanks in advance.


1. Get a CELTA.

2. Arrive in Poland in September.

3. Look for a job in the city of your choice. The best jobs are not advertised on the net.

4. Being from outside the EU will make things a little more complicated, but it shouldn't stop you from coming to Poland.

For more advice just search the board we anwser questions like this all the time.

All the best.
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gregoryfromcali



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2005 12:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

5. Go to http://www.google.pl

And type in "szkola jezykow obcych"
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afowles



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 8:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gregoryfromcali wrote:
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something amazing. Can't beat this deal. www.MastersInPoland.com


SPAM! SPAM! SPAM!


I just followed the SPAM link and it points to an odd combination of:

A: Framingham University, which used to be the sponsor of American Academy of English

and

B: Akademia Polonijna in Czestochowa (my old employer).

Creepy.
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gregoryfromcali



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 4:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Creepy.


Indeed. In that case I'm glad we chased them away.

AAE has hurt a lot of teachers.
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Alex Shulgin



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 2:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

afowles wrote:
Framingham University, which used to be the sponsor of American Academy of English



Not quite true. As far as I can work out Framingham provided a course for AAE and charged them for it accordingly.

I wonder whether Framingham is owed money by AAE like so many others are.
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abowwowbowers



Joined: 16 Oct 2005
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 27, 2005 7:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Poland is great, you should come. Bosses can be a bit dodgy however. Be careful.

Don't worry about getting a visa.

Most schools pay 35 zloty an hour. For private lessons most teachers charge 50 zloty. It's enough for a good lifestyle in Poland, but not too much if you need to service your student loans.

Best of luck.
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Jetset



Joined: 31 Aug 2005
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 31, 2005 4:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i've met the two guys who sell this program in poland, and they are nice enough chaps. just the same I wonder how respected the degree will be...

Definitely do not come if you plan on saving money to pay off student loans... the pay is livable here but poverty spec in comparison to most of the western world. The people are very nice and unfortunately its difficult to leave this place once you come! Smile
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chimychimy



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2006 3:37 pm    Post subject: Masters in Poland - the real story Reply with quote

This newsgroup has been brought to my attention by one of the participants in the new program. I am a participant in the program as well and I've also been helping with recruitment. I'd like to clear up some suspicions about the program.

In March 2003, AAE went under. It's history... finished! It left me and 23 others without a job and without an M.Ed. We got together and finished the course by paying for it out of our own pockets. 20 graduated leaving the 4 of us only half way done. Looking through our options, we attempted (and successfully!) to bring the course back so we could finish it ourselves. We found a new sponsor, Polonia University, which anyone who has worked for it can vouch that it's a financially stable institution.

In the end, something new, exciting and unexpected has grown from this very strange and turbulant string of events. For those of you who'd like to confirm the authenticity of my account, I'll refer you to www.larrycreedon.info and find the entry entitled "Poland Research Course Successful" dated May 19, 2005. Prof. Creedon was our professor during the course there in February and then flew back to do the program Pro Bono in May, when we had to pay for it out of our own pocket.

Also, I encourage you to contact Framingham State College's International Programs Office and speak with Joyce Fahey. She'll confirm that AAE is no longer running the program in Poland (and I do believe that AAE still owes them money).

I just wanted to set the record straight. I was cheated by AAE and I want you to know that they are now long gone...
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karley



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 11, 2006 12:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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If you could point me in the right direction, it would help a lot. Thanks in advance.

1. Get a CELTA.


how is a CELTA different from a TESOL certificate?

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2. Arrive in Poland in September.


is it not possible to secure a job before you arrive in poland?


thanks...
(i'm also a canadian university grad looking to teach in poland in sept 06).
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Alex Shulgin



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 11, 2006 12:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

karley wrote:
how is a CELTA different from a TESOL certificate?

CELTA is a specific course. TESOL certificate is the generic term for all certificate courses which train teachers of EFL/ESOL/ESL.

CELTA is the best regarded and most widely accepted of the initial training courses. There are other choices. The Trinity cert TESOL is almost as well accepted and regarded as the CELTA. The TEFL international cert is becoming well regarded but still has a way to go in Europe. The SIT cert TESOL will probably be accepted. But CELTA is the best choice in terms of what schools/recruiters are looking for.

Don't do any course which takes less than four weeks of full-time study. Don't do any course which doesn't include supervised teaching of real language students.


karley wrote:
is it not possible to secure a job before you arrive in poland?

Yes it is possible but you'll probably have a better choice of better jobs if you are here in person. Schools prefer to hire people that they can meet in person. Generally.
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Pollux



Joined: 04 Jan 2006
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 11, 2006 11:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The TEFL international cert is becoming well regarded but still has a way to go in Europe.

That's not really true. I went through a TEFL course in Paris and the CELTA course offered there seemed like a crash course compaired to it. A TEFL cert is well received in Europe. Period.
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biffinbridge



Joined: 05 May 2003
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Location: Frank's Wild Years

PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 11:55 am    Post subject: watch out Reply with quote

Currently in Poland.Watch out for Profi-Lingua.They paid me late in December,(breach of contract) and I have resigned.They are threatening to take me to court for about 75,000 zl,(no that isn't a mistake),unless I find them a new teacher.Meanwhile last week they were trying to get the natives to sign forms in Polish saying that we were tax registered in the UK.Therefore I really don't understand why they have been taking 20% tax...I don't even have a NIP number.
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