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Where are ESL Teachers the Most Demanded and Least Supplied
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bj80



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2019 11:05 am    Post subject: Where are ESL Teachers the Most Demanded and Least Supplied Reply with quote
Hi Everyone,

Just as a brainstorm, I am wondering where supply and demand favors us the most, and least.

I would be happy to hear your views.

1. The most:

Here are places where the demand for ESL teacher's far outstrips the supply. I am not taking in pay into account. Simply where people need us.

China, especially outside the big cities.
Conflict areas, where people will study for a better life.
Southern Pacific Islands (Vanuatu, etc.)
South Korea, because they value business so much

2. The Least

England, as the accents are considered the most posh, and a competent English speaker is always within reach.

Australia, as there are many ESL businesses, programs, etc. on every corner, and Australia is a fun place to be.

USA, as ESL has always been a huge boon.
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spiral78



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2019 8:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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2. The Least

England, as the accents are considered the most posh, and a competent English speaker is always within reach.

Australia, as there are many ESL businesses, programs, etc. on every corner, and Australia is a fun place to be.

USA, as ESL has always been a huge boon.


In other words, in countries where English is the native language.....you can add Canada to this list.
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nomad soul



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2019 3:38 am    Post subject: Supplied Reply with quote
bj80 wrote:
Simply where people need us.
....
Conflict areas, where people will study for a better life.

Keep in mind, the majority of English language teachers in "conflict" areas tend to be capable, qualified nationals.
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Unheard Utterance



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 9:23 am    Post subject: Re: Supplied Reply with quote
nomad soul wrote:
bj80 wrote:
Simply where people need us.
....
Conflict areas, where people will study for a better life.

Keep in mind, the majority of English language teachers in "conflict" areas tend to be capable, qualified nationals.


Care to elaborate with examples? My limited experience in post-conflict countries at least would be as such: the locals have no idea how to teach and the local students want out.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 2:20 pm    Post subject: Re: Supplied Reply with quote
Unheard Utterance wrote:
nomad soul wrote:
bj80 wrote:
Simply where people need us.
....
Conflict areas, where people will study for a better life.

Keep in mind, the majority of English language teachers in "conflict" areas tend to be capable, qualified nationals.

Care to elaborate with examples? My limited experience in post-conflict countries at least would be as such: the locals have no idea how to teach and the local students want out.

The OP referred to regions/countries experiencing conflict and not those post-conflict. Big difference. There are capable English teachers (nationals) in volatile areas of the Mid East and in Afghanistan, for example.
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Unheard Utterance



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2019 6:09 am    Post subject: Re: Supplied Reply with quote
nomad soul wrote:
Unheard Utterance wrote:
nomad soul wrote:
bj80 wrote:
Simply where people need us.
....
Conflict areas, where people will study for a better life.

Keep in mind, the majority of English language teachers in "conflict" areas tend to be capable, qualified nationals.

Care to elaborate with examples? My limited experience in post-conflict countries at least would be as such: the locals have no idea how to teach and the local students want out.

The OP referred to regions/countries experiencing conflict and not those post-conflict. Big difference. There are capable English teachers (nationals) in volatile areas of the Mid East and in Afghanistan, for example.


Fair enough. I wonder why positions for foreign teachers are advertised at places such as Kabul University. Whatever the money, no thanks. Dealing with PTSD is hard enough than having terrorists running around or being in a war zone.
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nomad soul



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2019 7:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Unheard Utterance wrote:
Fair enough. I wonder why positions for foreign teachers are advertised at places such as Kabul University.

I've worked in a war zone, so yes, there will still be ads for foreign teachers -- life goes on as best as it can. However, those ads don't always target westerners. There's generally not a high demand like the OP intimated. Additionally, not every teaching job in a conflict area pays a lot, nor is there a healthy supply of western teachers available and willing to accept those roles.

Those of us who experienced the Arab Spring first hand some years back can recall how the situation turned sour throughout the MENA. In my case, we would hear gunfire at night and sounds of protesters rioting. The military presence was strong in an effort to curb the violence. Students and staff were unable to leave their homes for safety reasons, and therefore, schools closed. Embassies either advised their citizens to leave or mandated that they depart immediately. So no, conflict areas don't equate to a high demand for foreign teachers.
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Unheard Utterance



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2019 8:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
I think there’d be a decent demand in certain post-conflict countries, though. Foreign governments love splashing the aid cash around in the hope of “nation building” in order to have political influence. The private sector would be inundated in foreign tax payer money for building capacity, as would possibly be the local military, especially if that country has its military involved in UN deployments. I’ve experienced this before first-hand, but I’m doing my best to get out of these sorts of places.
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