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The Best and Worst of Taiwan: your opinions
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SEndrigo



Joined: 28 Apr 2004
Posts: 437

PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 11:03 pm    Post subject: The Best and Worst of Taiwan: your opinions Reply with quote

Hi everybody,

I'll be coming over to Taiwan to study but am considering making it a place to live long-term, so I would really like to get your valuable opinions and insights.

And I think this would help out everyone, all newbies who are coming over to Taiwan.

We've seen posts that are similar to this, but what I'd really like to know are your no-holds barred opinions on Taiwan.

Specifically...what are all the things you LIKE about Taiwan, and what are all the things that DO NOT LIKE about Taiwan?

What annoys you...makes you go crazy...what bothers you? What might bother a newbie coming over?

What are aspects of maybe the weather, landscape, people, job situation, money situation, health situation, etc. that you don't like?

Similarly, what are all the things you DO like about Taiwan, what are good aspects of the people, the weather, the financial situation, housing situation, etc.?

Thanks guys, really appreciate it and am looking forward to hearing what you think!
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TaoyuanSteve



Joined: 05 Feb 2003
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Location: Taoyuan

PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 12:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK. Well, I'll start with the bad.

Dislike:

Traffic and the way people drive here. It's dangerous in ways not seen in many other places.

Crowded, polluted cities. (It's worth noting that I've minimized the effects of the first two by living in a smaller center and in a community with a natural setting).

Top heavy, inflexible management style in Chinese organizations.

Likes:

Ability to reduce my monthly expenses to near zero when desired. This place can be really cheap. When you can eat a meal for under 2 dollars US, you know you can live cheap.

The feeling of being in demand. The abundance of work in our industry in Taiwan makes one feel secure.

The people who, on the whole, are friendly and non-aggressive.

The expat community in Taiwan.

The children I teach. The other day I was horsing around and asked a class of first graders in Chinese, "Raise your hand if you think your English teacher is the best teacher in the world." I expected playful sounds of retching or similar. Instead, every kid's hand shot up immediately, so fast I could tell they were sincere. It was one of those moments that leave a knot in your throat.

Anyway, that's just a few things to get things rolling.


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BJ



Joined: 03 Dec 2003
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 9:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nods at TS. SImilar. Some of the issues i had when i first got here many years ago, and still annoy me.

1. Scooters parked everywhere, making one walk int he street.

2. Trafiic seeming to travel in at least 4 directions at once.

3. The smell of stinky Dofu.

4. Organisation in many forms.

Likes

1. The students.

2. Cost of living.

3. Friends.
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forest1979



Joined: 10 Jun 2007
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Location: SE Asia

PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 12:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's many pluses to Taiwan. Too many to list.

Peeves though...don't get me started.

1. Pavements being parking spaces for scooters.

2. The noise. When living in Taiwan those odd moments of peace are truly bliss.

3. Administrators. No common sense, unprofessional, untrustworthy.

4. Summer climate. Perfect for people trying to sweat weight off. Hell for everyone else.

5. Taiwanese authorities and people do not appreciate their environment. River are for putting liquids into. Countryside for tipping rubbish. Air for filling with smoke. Sea for dumping anything and everything. Open land is for building stalag inspired architecture upon. As long as people make money who cares? Me!
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stunnershades



Joined: 06 Mar 2007
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 2:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Taiwan is really cool looking. I love exploring and photographing the creepy urban areas and alleyways where one can see caged chickens, stray dogs, chinese graffiti, and other purely eastern things. Its what I came here for. Plus its way safe.
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BigWally



Joined: 07 Jun 2006
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Location: Ottawa, CAN (prev. Kaohsiung "the Dirty South")

PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 4:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dislikes:
1. Traffic
2. Scooter Parking lots (aka Sidewalks)
3. Betel Nut
4. Administrations
5. Pollution

Likes:
1. Cost of living
2. Food
3. Weather
4. Money
5. Students
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SEndrigo



Joined: 28 Apr 2004
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 4:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow, you guys rock, thanks!

Seems like all the bad points so far aren't even really bad!

I was thinking I would hear much worse things! But I'm glad I didn't, and also glad you guys are giving your honest views. Thanks again!

Does anyone else have anything else to add? Would be great to keep the thread going!
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Ki



Joined: 23 Jul 2004
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 5:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For me the best like is getting paid good money for a fun easy job. The worst though is the traffic, pedestrian and motorised, both of which absolutely insists on walking/driving into you. Taxi drivers are the absolute worst.
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southern bluefin



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 5:06 am    Post subject: Taiwan Reply with quote

Hi all
My fiance and I have tentatively booked flights from New Zealand to South Korea stopping over in Taiwan for a few days on the way, on 17th November.

Kindly, can anyone advise a good place for a newbie to the industry (age 40) to start in Taiwan - prefer teaching adults business English if poss., but am open minded.

Thanks for any advice - do we need to have a job lined up or can we apply to a few places during our week stay - if so, what places are recommended? I have a degree and some adult teaching experience in business communication.

Thanks, Paul and Shirley in Auckland
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wood



Joined: 13 Apr 2004
Posts: 202

PostPosted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Likes: Cold beer available24 hours a day.

Dislikes: Same
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just4u



Joined: 27 May 2007
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 3:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

stunnershades wrote:
Taiwan is really cool looking. I love exploring and photographing the creepy urban areas and alleyways where one can see caged chickens, stray dogs, chinese graffiti, and other purely eastern things. Its what I came here for. Plus its way safe.


LOL Laughing
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BigWally



Joined: 07 Jun 2006
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Location: Ottawa, CAN (prev. Kaohsiung "the Dirty South")

PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 4:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

just4u wrote:
stunnershades wrote:
Taiwan is really cool looking. I love exploring and photographing the creepy urban areas and alleyways where one can see caged chickens, stray dogs, chinese graffiti, and other purely eastern things. Its what I came here for. Plus its way safe.


LOL Laughing



Very true...I don't have a good day unless I have one of those T.I.T. moments, and say "WHOA! DIDJA SEE THAT!?!" to my girlfriend.

T.I.T. = this is taiwan
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SEndrigo



Joined: 28 Apr 2004
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 5:19 am    Post subject: Re: Taiwan Reply with quote

southern bluefin wrote:
Hi all
My fiance and I have tentatively booked flights from New Zealand to South Korea stopping over in Taiwan for a few days on the way, on 17th November.

Kindly, can anyone advise a good place for a newbie to the industry (age 40) to start in Taiwan - prefer teaching adults business English if poss., but am open minded.

Thanks for any advice - do we need to have a job lined up or can we apply to a few places during our week stay - if so, what places are recommended? I have a degree and some adult teaching experience in business communication.

Thanks, Paul and Shirley in Auckland


Hey Paul,

You may want to ask Clark Griswald, he knows a lot about Taiwan and is probably the best guy who can help you out.

Wish you all the best!
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MomCat



Joined: 02 Dec 2004
Posts: 297

PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 6:08 am    Post subject: Re: Taiwan Reply with quote

southern bluefin wrote:
Hi all
My fiance and I have tentatively booked flights from New Zealand to South Korea stopping over in Taiwan for a few days on the way, on 17th November.

Kindly, can anyone advise a good place for a newbie to the industry (age 40) to start in Taiwan - prefer teaching adults business English if poss., but am open minded.

Thanks for any advice - do we need to have a job lined up or can we apply to a few places during our week stay - if so, what places are recommended? I have a degree and some adult teaching experience in business communication.

Thanks, Paul and Shirley in Auckland


Hi Paul and Shirley,

My knee jerk reaction to any post that has both "age 40" and "teaching adults business English" is to recommend Hsinchu. The Science Park supplies a steady stream of motivated students. Most go through one of the schools that range from good to scary. Some people set up corporate classes themselves (after a while here and getting to know the contacts), and others take in private students. The pay for teaching adults is only average.

The pluses for Hsinchu are a mature expat community, relatively clean air, small enough to be logistically manageable and enough adult students to support a fairly healthy population of teachers who want them.

The drawback is that it is a uninspiringly drab city that is also expensive.

Your business background will be golden here.

I believe potential employers will be hesitant to sign a contract if you're leaving for Korea. They'll be afraid you're going there to look for a job and won't come back.

Good luck,
Cat
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forest1979



Joined: 10 Jun 2007
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Location: SE Asia

PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 12:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SEndrigo - What do you mean "Seems like all the bad points so far aren't even really bad!"??

I take it you haven't been breathing in the air in Taiwanese cities lately, or tried to walk along a sidewalk without either getting run down or walking with the crowd through a space 2 feet wide.
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