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First stop China or Thailand???

 
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sharona



Joined: 01 Jun 2004
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 03, 2004 8:47 pm    Post subject: First stop China or Thailand??? Reply with quote

Hello everyone,

I've just gained my CELTA and want to head off to China or Thailand (but not Bangkok).

Fact is I have a little bit of credit card debt, so want something quite well paid, at least for initial six months. Being degree'less though cannot go to Taiwan or Japan.

From looking around on the net, I think the main drawbacks with Thailand would be having to teach young children (which I don't really want to have to deal with straight off), and large classes.

And with China it seems having to be available for long hours on working days, and polluted cities.

Anyone have any solutions??

thanx
S

ps I will post to both China and Thailand forums, if this is okay! (want as many answers as possible)
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Gringo Greg



Joined: 19 Jan 2003
Posts: 264
Location: Everywhere and nowhere

PostPosted: Sat Jun 05, 2004 7:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

my suggestion is to avoid Thailand if you have credit card debt..without a degree you will at best make 25k a month($600) and while the cost of living in low, it isn't that low. Plus you will have visa problems on a monthly basis without a degree..you can have an ok time if you are single and spending all of your pay, but life will suck for you if are sending 20% of your salary back home for debts.

My suggestion is to stay home until the credit card debt is paid off or just figure that you won't be paying it off.
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billybang



Joined: 19 Jun 2004
Posts: 9

PostPosted: Mon Jun 21, 2004 1:53 am    Post subject: china difficult to understand thailand doesnt pay well Reply with quote

been both places and china is difficult to understand. everything is written in chinese and almost no one speaks english. thailand at least some people speak english in big cities. but even with ba or masters degree you wont be paid more than 700$ american a month. doesnt matter about degrees. same pay as a high school education. china pays better. but try and communicate. one minute of english is equal to hours of problems.
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WorkingVaca



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Posts: 135

PostPosted: Mon Jun 21, 2004 1:56 pm    Post subject: Debt Reply with quote

If you need to make more money to pay off debts back home, you should be thinking about Korea, Japan or Taiwan. If you're interested in Chinese food, language and culture, Taiwan has it.
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august03



Joined: 13 Oct 2003
Posts: 159
Location: Jiangsu, China

PostPosted: Wed Jun 23, 2004 12:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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china is difficult to understand. everything is written in chinese and almost no one speaks english


I disagree, I have been surprised at the amount of people that DO speak English, even in the small city where I live, road signs are in English, some restaurant menus and you'll find at least 1 person in every store that speaks a little English.

You can find many jobs in China that don't have long working hours, I only work 11hrs a week and earn enough money to pay debt back home in Oz. Plus it's easy to find work here without a degree.
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markholmes



Joined: 21 Jun 2004
Posts: 661
Location: Wengehua

PostPosted: Fri Jul 02, 2004 4:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You're are unlikely to earn much money in the first six months teaching anywhere including Taiwan, Japan and Korea. There are lots of set up costs initially. Most people don't start stacking away serious savings until they are into the second year.

You won't be paying off many debts in Thailand or China.
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ela_espanola



Joined: 22 Jun 2004
Posts: 18
Location: Toronto, Canada...soon in Guangzhou

PostPosted: Sat Jul 10, 2004 1:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

if u want to pay of ur credit card debt then thailand is out of the picture. try developed cities such as guanzhou, shanghai, bejjing etc. i got offered a good position with no degree or teaching experience. good luck
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ela_espanola



Joined: 22 Jun 2004
Posts: 18
Location: Toronto, Canada...soon in Guangzhou

PostPosted: Sat Jul 10, 2004 1:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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You won't be paying off many debts in Thailand or China.


that is not true.....there is saving potential in china
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sigmoid



Joined: 21 Jan 2003
Posts: 1276

PostPosted: Sat Jul 10, 2004 7:07 am    Post subject: skip Thailand Reply with quote

Even with a degree it is difficult to find well-paid teaching jobs in Thailand, especially outside of Bangkok.

Do some more research about China. They seem to have a HUGE demand for teachers and more relaxed regulations in regards to teaching without a degree.
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David Bowles



Joined: 30 Jan 2003
Posts: 249

PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2004 5:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agreed- demand in China is enough. If you really want to get money fast there's no way that China/Thailand would compare with most jobs in western Europe/the USA etc, but then again China can be very cheap to live in as your employer will almost certainly pay accommodation. I think working without a degree is technically illegal in China (I'm fairly sure it's a requirement for a work visa/residence permit), but that doesn't stop many people. If your employer has the clout to OK things with the local officicals it should be fine...
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ContemporaryDog



Joined: 21 May 2003
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Location: Wuhan, China

PostPosted: Fri Aug 06, 2004 4:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I work in China and have all my rent, bills, meals, internet costs, etc all paid for by school. So while my monthly pay of 5800 yuan (about 400 quid) a month sounds low, I still save about 3000 of it, which is about 210 quid. You could conceivably pay off debts with that, although I do have to be a bit careful. In my first term I was going out to expensive bars and spending all my money on that, and hardly saved any, its only since Mrs Dog came along that Iv'e saved a lot - about 1500 pounds since Janaury.
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