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Birdog3344
Joined: 28 Jun 2004 Posts: 126 Location: Osaka, Japan
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Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2004 12:19 am Post subject: Advice for living arrangements in Japan |
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Hello to all. Thank you to those who responded to my previous posts, this forum has been an invaluable resource at this stage. My girlfriend and I are planning to interview with ECC in the coming month and need to decide on living arrangements once in Japan. Positions are currently available in the Kinki District (Osaka and surrounding area), the Kanto District (Tokyo and surrounding area) and the Chubu District (Nagoya and surrounding area). We are confident that Tokyo is not for us (just to big and crowded), so have narrowed our choices to Osaka and Nagoya. We are looking for a medium sized city with as much traditional culture mingled amongst the inevitable modern wasteland that I gather is ubiquitous in any Japanese metropolis. We enjoy the outdoors (hiking and camping) so would love to be within a short distance of mountains and/or nature preserves. As far as apartments, we require a private apartment but not necessarily 2 bedrooms. We may be willing to pay a bit more (up to 800k Yen?) if that would mean a nicer place. I've been informed from the North American recruiter that if we choose the Chubu District (Nagoya) we will most likely be required to take ECC arranged housing, whereas we will have the option to take ECC accommodation or arrange our own if placed in the Kinki District (Osaka). So my two part question is; 1) which area do you think fits our needs best? and 2) are we better off taking arranged housing or finding a place on our own?
Thanks in advance for your advice.
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azarashi sushi

Joined: 23 Jan 2003 Posts: 562 Location: Shinjuku
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Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2004 12:28 am Post subject: |
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| are we better off taking arranged housing or finding a place on our own? |
If money is no problem, then of course you are better off getting your own apartment. You'll need to pay between 3 and 6 months rent up front and furnish it yourself though. EXPENSIVE!
With the company arranged housing, you will only only need to pay the monthly rent and no upfront deposits, key money, agent's fee etc... CHEAP! |
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guest of Japan

Joined: 28 Feb 2003 Posts: 1601 Location: Japan
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Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2004 12:58 am Post subject: |
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| We may be willing to pay a bit more (up to 800k Yen?) if that would mean a nicer place. |
Is that price per year or did you mean 80k? I live 30 minutes outside Tokyo and my wife and I pay 95,000 a month for a spacious 2LDK. Plus it cost us about 400,000 just to move in and we didn't pay key money.
Within a city like Osaka or Nagoya 80k a month won't get you a nice apartment for two people. If the figure you gave was your yearly budget you will live very badly. |
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Mike L.
Joined: 28 Feb 2003 Posts: 519
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Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2004 2:02 am Post subject: |
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Go co-op if you can.
It generally overcomes all of the negatives of renting in Jpan.
There are no real estate agents or foolish landlords..
No key money, no guarantor..but you'll nedd 3 month deposite and first months rent!
Ususally a cheap super in the complex..
The good thing is that your APT isn't linked to your employer!
The units are often rennovated!!
Prices vary a lot. But ones in the burbs, where you might get placed, are suusally quite affordable.
You'll need someone with good Japanese to help you though. THey've changed the site too lately!!
http://www.ur-net.go.jp/[/quote] |
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Birdog3344
Joined: 28 Jun 2004 Posts: 126 Location: Osaka, Japan
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Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2004 2:16 am Post subject: |
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Yeah, I meant 80k. I think we'll take the company housing. Question is, are we forced to take what they give us or do we have a few apts to choose from and are we able to get a nicer one if we fork over a little bit more cash.
Also, any info on the difference b/w Nagoya and Osaka? |
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bearcat
Joined: 08 May 2004 Posts: 367
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Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2004 2:42 am Post subject: |
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If you think Tokyo is too big for you Osaka wouldnt be any better.
If Tokyo was like NYC, then Osaka would be like L.A. and Nagoya like Chicago with a bit of detroit sprinkled in(since Toyota is a hop skip and a jump away).
ECC in Nagoya used to put up alot of teacher in FreeBell apartments and those had two people to an apartment. However with all regions, you may not even get to work in the cities proper but in branches in the hinter lands on the outside. Thus if you were placed in the Toyota area (pretty much 1 hour and 30 minutes from Nagoya station) you'd most likely not duck into Nagoya to teach or visit unless on your own time or for a training session etc.
That said, regions themselves are misleading to consider for working because its better to know exactly where you will teach/live. Unfortunately this doesn't get decided in some cases until after you're here.
Its pretty difficult to say whats best for you because we dont have enough information to truly gauge. |
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Gordon

Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Posts: 5309 Location: Japan
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Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2004 3:29 am Post subject: |
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I think we'll take the company housing. Question is, are we forced to take what they give us or do we have a few apts to choose from and are we able to get a nicer one if we fork over a little bit more cash.
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Only your employer can really answer that question.
I think you're wise to take their housing because you will have a big enough adjustment being in a new culture and job, without having to find a place to live and furnishings. You can find deals on second hand furniture here, but it takes a long time to find out where to go. |
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Joannda
Joined: 07 Jun 2004 Posts: 43 Location: Japan!
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I lived in Osaka for a year 4 years ago, and really enjoyed it there. I can't say anything much about Nagoya though, so this may be a bit biased Anyway, although Osaka is undoubtedly a huge | |