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new horizons



Joined: 11 Jul 2004
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 12, 2004 3:57 pm    Post subject: Mixed race couple with questions . . Reply with quote

We posted on General and it was suggested we post here as well. Background: We are a husband and wife looking for teaching positions in the East. Most likely Korea but, we are keeping our options open. I have a BFA and would like to teach English. My husband, who has an MBA, would eventually like to teach something finance related at a university.
We have traveled extensively and are used to dealing with other cultures. But, while my husband has spent some time in Asia, I have not. We are a mixed race couple (I am Black, he is White) from the States who are in our early thirties. We have been informed that these last items; race, age, and to some degree given current events, nationality, may make it more difficult to find positions. Our question is: How difficult and, if we do find a school, what will life be like for us?
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Glenski



Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN

PostPosted: Wed Jul 14, 2004 1:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I haven't seen your other posting, but all I can say is that foreigners of mixed races aren't treated the same way as a Japanese person married to a foreigner of a different race. The rules don't apply. You are unique and that's all there is to it. They will (usually) go through hiring practices for you and your husband just like any other foreigner. (I say usually because there are a few places that have reservations about hiring non-whites, but don't let them get you down.)

As for your husband teaching finance-related at a Japanese university, I suspect that he would have to do it in Japanese. If he can't, don't expect to get hired.

Your ages make no difference whatsoever. Teachers of English range from early 20's to mid-60's. University profs are usually early 30's.

Don't know why Americans would have any problems getting teaching jobs in Japan, even these days with the Iraq situation, unless you are related to George Bush. American English is very much in demand here.
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Roger



Joined: 19 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 14, 2004 11:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As for the PR of C, expect the Chinese to be slightly patronising or condescending in their dealings with non-Chinese, which might translate into some more unfriendly behavioral patterns vis-a=vis non-whites (including Chinese from anglophone countries).
You might both get hired as English teachers, though as a black person your chances are a little smaller. On the other hand, your hubby shouldn't set his hopes too high on teaching anything but English.
Don't expect the Chinese education system to produce students that can rely on their English as a medium of instruction.
Very few schools conduct bilingual classes. Universities are not comparable to tertiary institutes in the West! Teaching finances, you would need a lot of good luck to get hired at a prestigious uni such as Tsinghua or the CHina-Europe Management School or some similar one in Wuhan.
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PAULH



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 16, 2004 5:04 am    Post subject: Re: Mixed race couple with questions . . Reply with quote

new horizons wrote:
. My husband, who has an MBA, would eventually like to teach something finance related at a university.
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Just to re-capitulate on what Glenski wrote:

In a Korean/Japanese university most non-majors studying other languages than English will speak little or no English. I teach Business and Economics majors at a university in Japan and their English is about 350 on the TOEIC or a little above false beginner. Anything about doing business or commerce taught in English would be too high for them. His best bet is teaching graduates or Masters students where students may have some conversational ability, but those classes are usually reserved for teachers with PhDs, college teaching experience, an EAP (English for Academic Purposes) background. publications are required for full time positions in Japan. I have never taught in Korea but the entry level for university teachers is much lower there, in terms of qualifications. General academic standards seem to be a low lower as well.

An MBA may cut it as far as knowledege about content is concerned, but he would need to know something about teaching his topic to non-English major students who dont speak the language at a high level. The likely level would be teaching low level university students how to make business phone calls in English, making appointments and how to write a business letter, not about leveraged takeovers and how to read a financial report.
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