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A.K.A.T.D.N.
Joined: 12 Jun 2004 Posts: 170
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Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2004 11:49 am Post subject: Running Wild in Taipei |
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I am. . .with jobs up the wazoo and really in a state of uncertainty.
I was offered a job with a company called ELT, an upbeat, un-Bushibannish place that teaches only adults but. . .
Another job was offered me teaching toddlers at a bushiban but. . .
I can make more money juggling several part-time jobs instead of this one full-time job but. . .
I wonder if I'm becoming a renegade and running from the long arm of the law because. . .
The teaching adults job seems fishy to me(They're all businessman that own it) and they all have 'shares' or something as part of being in part ownership with the business so. . .
I'm afraid I'll get deported!! What should I do? Teach a multitude of jobs and make more cash or stick to just one? |
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markholmes

Joined: 21 Jun 2004 Posts: 661 Location: Wengehua
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Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2004 2:43 am Post subject: |
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If you come here on a contract you're stuck with a fixed salary/hours. The job may not be to your liking, the hours may be too long, and you'll definitely have to pay tax. Most of the people making money here have a multiple of part-time teaching jobs, some of these people easily raking in about 70-80,000 a month. 60,000 is not enough for me. |
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If you want to play it safe, get a recruiter. But the best thing is, is to get a part-time job, work permit ARC, etc., and then work from there. |
This is the advice you just gave a complete newbie on another post. I suggest you put your money where your mouth is and report back when you've done it. |
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A.K.A.T.D.N.
Joined: 12 Jun 2004 Posts: 170
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Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2004 5:58 am Post subject: |
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markholmes wrote: |
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If you come here on a contract you're stuck with a fixed salary/hours. The job may not be to your liking, the hours may be too long, and you'll definitely have to pay tax. Most of the people making money here have a multiple of part-time teaching jobs, some of these people easily raking in about 70-80,000 a month. 60,000 is not enough for me. |
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If you want to play it safe, get a recruiter. But the best thing is, is to get a part-time job, work permit ARC, etc., and then work from there. |
This is the advice you just gave a complete newbie on another post. I suggest you put your money where your mouth is and report back when you've done it. |
Yeah holmes, that's why I gave two different opinions. I'm really not sure, this is all I meant. All the above is true but. . .which way is the best? One job or a multiple of jobs?
And remember I'M HERE! I'm not overseas and unfamiliar with the space between the lines.
Someone with some good advice please answer this thread instead of these nitpicking naysayers. |
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markholmes

Joined: 21 Jun 2004 Posts: 661 Location: Wengehua
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Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2004 6:29 am Post subject: |
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My point was that you seem to be dispensing advice to a newbie when the advice you were dispensing was not based on your own experience.
For example how many posts have you read here that say do not use a recruiter, yet this is one of the options that you offer the other newbie.
Anyway, to your question. I think an ARC is the way to go. I think you need to be working 18 hours a week to qualify for an ARC (although this may only be a matter of paperwork).
If you are unsure about working illegally in a school then look for privates. You are never going to get deported for sitting in someones living room teaching their kids.
The chances of getting caught in a school are slim but obviously you are increasing your chances by being in a school and your overall increased exposure.
I had to run away from a school twice, once in my socks because although I had an ARC for that school I was working in the preschool which of course is illegal.
The only way to be safe is to get an ARC teaching either adults or school age kids in one location only (the address on your ARC). In my experience very few teachers stick to this rule. Most people do at least a couple of privates on the side, and even your school may send you to another branch to help out. That is just the way it is.
I found kindergarten the most rewarding form of teaching. Immersion classes where you spend 20 odd hours a week with a class, teaching them eating with them, taking them to the park. Its not for everyone I thought it was much better than teaching a bunch of bored obnoxious high school kids. |
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Fortigurn
Joined: 29 Oct 2003 Posts: 390
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Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2004 7:23 am Post subject: |
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It seems to me that this is what you do (taken from Tealit):
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ARC Transfers & Release Letters
On January 15th, 2004 the national Council of Labor Affairs assumed responsibility for issuing foreign teacher's work permits from local city and county Departments of Education. The resulting transfer has changed the landscape for foreign teachers working in Taiwan. One policy the Council of Labor Affairs has significantly revised: ARC Transfers. They are now prohibited. But, with the new rules, they are now not necessary.
ADD A SECOND SCHOOL FIRST
As a foreign teacher, you are allowed to stay in Taiwan due to your having been hired full-time by a school. If you lost that job or quit, you would need to leave the country. The Council of Labor Affairs interprets the Employment Services Act as allowing foreign teachers to be hired by more than one school without requiring permission of their current employer. They will issue all second (and even third) full-time applications without regard to your first school.
HOW TO PROCEED
Teachers wanting to change schools should first be hired full-time by their new school (16 hours per week) . In order to do this your new school needs to send the Council of Labor Affairs this form along with an up to date health check (health checks are valid for 3 months) and a translation of your diploma.
The process of getting a Work Permit from the the Council of Labor Affairs takes between 7-10 business days. Currently it's running about 7. Once the Council of Labor Affairs has finished the application they will send the second Work Permit to your new school. You take this to your local office of the Foreign Affairs Police. They will amend your ARC. Your existing Resident Visa remains in effect.
Once you are hired by your new school, then you would quit your old school.
Your Resident Visa and ARC depend on having a Work Permit. You are quitting but - you have a second full-time Work Permit-providing job. Therefore, you don�t need to leave the country. |
The subtle message I'm getting (and maybe I'm wrong), is that the part in bold is optional. |
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markholmes

Joined: 21 Jun 2004 Posts: 661 Location: Wengehua
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Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2004 3:32 pm Post subject: |
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AKATDN has said on several occasions he doesn't want to pay tax. Well if he puts both schools on his ARC he'll be paying tax at both. |
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Fortigurn
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Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2004 3:46 pm Post subject: |
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markholmes wrote: |
AKATDN has said on several occasions he doesn't want to pay tax. Well if he puts both schools on his ARC he'll be paying tax at both. |
Oh, that's a shame.  |
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A.K.A.T.D.N.
Joined: 12 Jun 2004 Posts: 170
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Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2004 10:05 am Post subject: |
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markholmes wrote: |
AKATDN has said on several occasions he doesn't want to pay tax. Well if he puts both schools on his ARC he'll be paying tax at both. |
No, actually I've found another alternative. The other school is not providing my ARC, so they'll just be paying me straight cash. Mum's the word, but I think I made a wise choice and will be up and going with the cash flowing in no time. |
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